California - Northern

[sewandgrow]

I have someone asking for a BCM rooster/cockerel. If any of you know of an available one please let me know. I may be going to the Fresno show. I will probably know after Thursday.
Thanks
Karen

 

[TheKeeper]

Hi Ron,

Dr. Popkin in Santa Rosa is an excellent veterinarian who is capable of successful de-crow surgery, but, it is a pricey venture and good possibility of having complications during and after the surgery.

Isoflurane is used as anesthetic which is very safe even for human pre-mature infants, but, there is always a chance that the animal will not gain conscientiousness when the operation is complete which happened to mine. Some breeds of animals are very sensitive to it, and never wake up.

The operation involves removing tissue from the vocal cords, which actually means cutting a hole, and making sure that the bird does not try to crow for at least 5-6 days after the surgery. If they do crow, the tensions and vibration on the vocal cords will cause the opening to bleed, and the walls of the hole will adhere during healing, causing it to close partially or fully, therefore the process will end up being ineffective, and he will be able to crow as good as new.

Lual

I didn't know about having to keep them crowing for 5-6 days. The cost has been my main deterrent as well as the idea that it isn't all that nice / fair / natural for the roo. In the same lines as declawing your cat. I'd never do it myself but i'm happy to give a home to a roo that already had it done because hes a sweetie.

 

[fowlman01]

If crowing at night is the only problem, there are ways to muffle that.

Walt

 

[capayvalleychick]

I wish I could go to the Ferndale show; but it took over a year for DH to be able to schedule being out of contact with his employer for long enough to make the Modesto Show. The possibility of having an attack makes it risky for me to go out of town alone. It's a lot easier to find someone willing to go on a day trip or an overnight to Tahoe than to go to a poultry show with me. Sigh.

Excuse me while I go out in the backyard and fight the Dominiques for the worms. B^)

I'm always willing to go to shows, but I'm a big chicken about driving in city traffic. I used to talk my husband into taking me, but he's getting tired of it. To get to Modesto (with a horse trailer), he and a friend drove two vehicles and dropped me off. He towed the trailer on the way back but made me drive myself, in my truck. I did ok, so maybe next time I can drive myself.

 

[HighStreetCoop]

@HighStreetCoop I have to tell you what a sweet lovey-dovey the splash orp with the yellow legs is. I call her "Willow" now. She comes when I call her for treats & snuggles and actually purrs when I scratch her. Love love love....

Yea!!! She was always a sweetie. I'm glad she's a getting a chance to blossom in your flock. Phoebe loves my friend Amie best. She snuggles with her. It's so cute.

 

[HighStreetCoop]

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The operation involves removing tissue from the vocal cords, which actually means cutting a hole, and making sure that the bird does not try to crow for at least 5-6 days after the surgery. If they do crow, the tensions and vibration on the vocal cords will cause the opening to bleed, and the walls of the hole will adhere during healing, causing it to close partially or fully, therefore the process will end up being ineffective, and he will be able to crow as good as new.



So does aftercare require you keep them in the dark the whole time?

Oakland vet is the St. Louis Veterinary Clinic. But it sounds like his surgeries aren't lasting per Kern's experience with them. They charge $150. No appointment necessary. He says just bring them in at 9:30AM and don't feed them that day.

https://local.yahoo.com/info-21503490-tan-brian-t-dvm-st-louis-veterinary-clinic-oakland

I may look into the place in Santa Rosa if my boy gets too obnoxious (but seriously, there are at least 5 other roosters on my block; the morning chorus has been a regular part of my life in EVERY neighborhood I've lived in in Oakland for 20+ years).

 

[HighStreetCoop]

If crowing at night is the only problem, there are ways to muffle that.

Walt

Mine doesn't (currently) crow at night, but he DOES crow when I go out to feed them before going to work around 5:30AM which may not endear him or me to the neighbors. On the weekends, he's quiet until pre-dawn (6:30AM-ish right now). The older boys around the hood don't get started until a bit later.

I just ordered a treadle feeder so hopefully he'll learn to sleep in a bit when I'm not out there waking them up every morning.

 

[tommysgirl]

I'm always willing to go to shows, but I'm a big chicken about driving in city traffic. I used to talk my husband into taking me, but he's getting tired of it. To get to Modesto (with a horse trailer), he and a friend drove two vehicles and dropped me off. He towed the trailer on the way back but made me drive myself, in my truck. I did ok, so maybe next time I can drive myself.

I used to be the same way...not about city traffic but about distance. And there is no need to worry about city traffic on the way to Ferndale....there aren't any cities between Guinda and there

 

[TheKeeper]

Pics of my latest hatch from the incubator (13 hatched out of 30 set, 9 not fertile, couple of early deaths, couple mid-way deaths = STINKY eggs, 2 late deaths no internal pips):
2 red pyle x white or splash Old English Game Bantams
3 showgirls (naked neck silkies): black, partridge & white
7 silkies: black, dk gray, lt gray, 2 partridge, white w/black spots (?), & white
1 silkie x ?: chipmunk fuzz w/orange feet (hmmm..)


Look at these crazy markings - it'll be neat to see what it will it feather out to be


@chiqita who's been sneaking into the silkie pen? Any guesses? Orange feet & chipmunk strips equals silkie x ??? I love surprises.

 

[KernH]

Pics of my latest hatch from the incubator (13 hatched out of 30 set, 9 not fertile, couple of early deaths, couple mid-way deaths = STINKY eggs, 2 late deaths no internal pips):
2 red pyle x white or splash Old English Game Bantams
3 showgirls (naked neck silkies): black, partridge & white
7 silkies: black, dk gray, lt gray, 2 partridge, white w/black spots (?), & white
1 silkie x ?: chipmunk fuzz w/orange feet (hmmm..)


Look at these crazy markings - it'll be neat to see what it will it feather out to be


@chiqita who's been sneaking into the silkie pen? Any guesses? Orange feet & chipmunk strips equals silkie x ??? I love surprises.

I love the white with the black strips. Kern