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For those of you with mountain lion pressure, is there anything to do? I've got one we and the neighbors all heard while we were (each respectively) walking our dogs on our adjacent properties; about 9pm. Jeesh. The upper coop I can't see, and it is all hardware cloth & plywood except the 15 x 24ft run is topped with chicken wire. Dog is kenneled tonight. I just read yesterday that several young males have been spotted in Sonoma County, presumably looking for territory. Weird timing...

This subject came up on a livestock group. There is a wild cat expert/rehab person on there who offered this advice. It applies more to livestock, but I'll post it FYI.

"I used to lecture about cougar behavior and biology in this area. Firstly, they are ambush hunters and prefer to stalk their prey in hiding and then pounce. So, if there is topography like a cliff or escarpment or thick underbrush within striking distance, try to eliminate that. By moving a fenceline or clearing brush (good fire practice anyways), also any pens and children's play area. Generally 50-60' is their max, if it's over that, they won't expose themselves. You can also put out motion sensing lights or sprinklers in areas that they'd have to pass through. Secondly, don't feed the deer! The cats will follow them in. Lastly, killing the cat is generally a bad idea because it's been studied and proven that they prefer natural prey, but resort to domestic animals when young and inexperienced, returning to natural prey after honing their skills. When young, they are also transient and looking to establish a new territory. If you kill that cat, like many do on a depredation permit, you create a territorial void that will attract another transient. And on and on the losses go. But if you predator proof your property and they perfect their skills, they will stick to wild prey and live in that area of 10+ years, effectively protecting it from a transient troublemaker moving in " written by Dawn Kerr

I also have friends who had a covered coop & run with 6 ft fence & barb wire above that, who had a bobcat wipe out their flock. They had to hot wire the bottom & top to keep that cat out.

Hope this helps.
 
X2 capayvallychick There's a mt. lion den down the road I live on id say within a mile or so. Has been there since I was a kid and we've never had a problem with it. My acreage is keep very clear due to bad fires in the foothills, minimal to no brush. Weed eating now (way to early but it has to be done).
Neighbors that live closer with denser growth around their property just lost a fairly large dog to it not to long ago.
 
This subject came up on a livestock group. There is a wild cat expert/rehab person on there who offered this advice. It applies more to livestock, but I'll post it FYI.

"I used to lecture about cougar behavior and biology in this area. Firstly, they are ambush hunters and prefer to stalk their prey in hiding and then pounce. So, if there is topography like a cliff or escarpment or thick underbrush within striking distance, try to eliminate that. By moving a fenceline or clearing brush (good fire practice anyways), also any pens and children's play area. Generally 50-60' is their max, if it's over that, they won't expose themselves. You can also put out motion sensing lights or sprinklers in areas that they'd have to pass through. Secondly, don't feed the deer! The cats will follow them in. Lastly, killing the cat is generally a bad idea because it's been studied and proven that they prefer natural prey, but resort to domestic animals when young and inexperienced, returning to natural prey after honing their skills. When young, they are also transient and looking to establish a new territory. If you kill that cat, like many do on a depredation permit, you create a territorial void that will attract another transient. And on and on the losses go. But if you predator proof your property and they perfect their skills, they will stick to wild prey and live in that area of 10+ years, effectively protecting it from a transient troublemaker moving in " written by Dawn Kerr

I also have friends who had a covered coop & run with 6 ft fence & barb wire above that, who had a bobcat wipe out their flock. They had to hot wire the bottom & top to keep that cat out.

Hope this helps.

interesting. I wonder if truely tasty prey negate that. Our Bresse pen gets attacked (unsuccessfully and sucesssfully depending on if ive screwed up or not) on a regular basis. You can tell when something has been walking on the top of the pen trying to get in. And even in his rooster boxx clovis will wake me up and i know that sound. No other pens get this treatment.
 
For those of you with mountain lion pressure, is there anything to do? I've got one we and the neighbors all heard while we were (each respectively) walking our dogs on our adjacent properties; about 9pm. Jeesh. The upper coop I can't see, and it is all hardware cloth & plywood except the 15 x 24ft run is topped with chicken wire. Dog is kenneled tonight. I just read yesterday that several young males have been spotted in Sonoma County, presumably looking for territory. Weird timing...

My friends up on the ridge above Nevada City use hot wire (and a llama, which I know isn't practical for everyone).
 
This is the first time we've heard one since we moved here 5 years ago. I am only 2 miles from Healdsburg on a busy road, darn it all! But the back of my property backs onto a pretty sizable open space. Probably there is too much human pressure here, but maybe they are just roaming. Keeping the dog (65 lbs and not a match for a lion!) tied up for the next few days, although I assume the cougar will be long gone by today.
We are starting building at the back of the property in two weeks, so loud, noise large machinery will probably be a deterant.
 
We get them down here in Berkeley and Oakland on a pretty regular basis. You often see alerts posted at the running track at UCB that one was seen and that runners should be careful at dawn and dusk.
 
Oh, will someone please have fertile eggs for this broody?
I set the basket down for a minute and ...


She wouldn't even get out when I picked the basket up!
 
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I have always admired your beautiful birds. Love their body shape & amazing feather pattern. How dare you be so tempting with those cute chicks! :) Are you selling any now? [/quote] Thank you:) yes and no on selling them. I'm hatching for next year's breeders, so to me every chick could be the one that I've been working for. So, I need to hold on to most of these for awhile. If you want just a couple let me know. I could possible part with a few especially If you want just pets. I will have " black" pullets from the blue breedings that I will not be keeping. They are beautiful too, but are more likely to have slight pattern faults and lighter brown eggs. Trisha
 

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