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Well, the universe always knows what we need to do huh? Here it goes!
I picked up the 7 new pullets this evening (3 BR, 3 RIR & a surprise Araucana) and
While they were still in my truck & I was deciding who goes where, my good friend called to invite me to a slaughter @ our other friend's house tomorrow morning.
I had missed the two opportunities earlier in the week that would have given me the experience I needed to butcher my older layers
but now... what perfect timing!
I am putting the new girls into the coop (as soon as I finish telling you all how excited I am!)
& the old girls are going into the dog carrier to be ready for they're "departure" in the morning.
I was reminded to take the ones I want to slaughter out tonight as to keep them from feeding....
I can't believe how that worked out:
My friend had no clue that I was going to pick up those pullets today & she is offering for me to bring my birds to kill also!
I really get to do this! I think after tomorrow I will be an official chicken farmer huh? Not just an egg collector lol.
(Not that there is anything wrong w/ just having layers: I am excited to be getting meat after 3 years of just eggs!)

But, I think I am only going to take 2 of my old girls; out of the 4, one is definitely my kids' pet & another is laying regularly, so they will stay.
Do you think that the new 7 and original 2 will be cool w/ each other in the morning?
That has got to be so weird to wake up w/ new roommates, minus a couple you grew up with!

Oh & the two week olds stayed outside for the first time last night in their kiddy pool brooder covered w/ a wool blanket... no more loading them into a plastic tub at night to keep in the house!
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You go girl! hehe The actual killing doesn't bother me (I used to help with rabbits when I was a teen) but the work of defeathering etc...eek! That overwhelms me at the thought. Wish there was an apprenticeship program for chicken slaughtering. lol
 
Dust bathing and when they lay on their sides and spread a wing (and look dead), they are sunbathing.

Your tailless one is probably a cockerel. Cockerels tend to feather in slower than pullets.
Oh wow. Glad you said something. If ducks act like that something is wrong- So I was panicking.

Huh I'll keep a look on the no-tail Buff. One of them is sassy towards all the other chicks. I wasn't paying attention to which Buff was bossy though.
 
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Also, some strains feather less quickly than others. Yours probably have the same father, but each could have a different mother. Fast feathering is supposed to indicate a better resistance to illness. Who knows though.

At two weeks, they should not be strong enough to pull the feathers out.

The dust bathing is great! You should see what the just hatched ones do. It looks like the just pass out. Moving around and then they just fall on their face with their little wings out. That's why some put marbles in the water--so they don't drown.

Ron
The ducks did that too. Just pass out and look like drunkards after a hard night at the bar. hehe


The chicks are cracking me up. When one of them thinks they found something it good- it runs around. Which causes ALL of them to think that one chick has something and they all chase her. So funny. They've even done it with a wood chip. Someone else will nab it and take off and thus the race begins again. :P Chicken games! haha
 
They are adorable!

Is that the Mom? and the Dad is a Jersey Giant"

Ron
The guide I read said to feed them some food to make it easier to find the crop. Seems too messy to me, so probably it is better to not feed them.

This is for the older Hen:


Whole Poached Chicken – Poule au Pot
For the Poached Whole Chicken
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1 whole chicken, 4-5 pounds
6 ribs celery, roughly chopped
1 onion, peeled and roughly chopped
2 carrots, peeled and roughly chopped
2 whole garlic cloves
2 sprig each savory herbs such as parsley, tarragon and thyme
1 cup white wine
cold water or cold poultry stock
kosher salt and whole black peppercorns, to taste
red chile flake, to taste
To Poach the Chicken: Rinse the chicken and pat dry. Remove the giblets (and reserve for other uses) and truss (see picture above). Place the chicken, celery, onion, carrots, garlic, herbs and white wine in a large stockpot. Add enough cold water or stock to cover the chicken by several inches. Add the salt, peppercorns and chile.
Place stockpot over medium-high heat and slowly bring to a simmer. Cook gently for 30 to 45 minutes. Make sure the liquid DOES NOT BOIL. The great French chef Georges Auguste Escoffier considered this so important the he wrote,
However nonsensical it may sound, the best possible definition of a poaching is a boiling that does not boil.​
Cover the pot and remove from the heat. Allow to stand for an additional 30 minutes or up to 1 hour for the chicken to finish cooking. Do not lift the lid during this time or cooking heat will be dissipated. The chicken won’t overcook, even if left for the maximum time. To check for doneness, pierce the thickest part of the thigh and make sure the juices run clear.
To Serve: Remove the chicken from the broth, allow it to cool slightly and carve. Strain the liquid, discard the solids, and reserve the broth.
If you wish to fortify the broth, do not discard the vegetables and return the bones, after removing the meat, to the liquid and simmer an additional hour or two.

After you get the meat:



Dumplings

  • 2 1/4 cups Self Rising Flour
  • 1/4 cup (4 tablespoons) butter
  • 2 tablespoons chopped fresh chives or parsley or 2 teaspoons dried, optional
  • 3/4 cup buttermilk; or 1/2 cup plain yogurt thinned with 1/4 cup milk
  • 1 large egg
Filling

  • 1/4 cup (4 tablespoons) butter
  • 1/2 cup All Purpose Flour (not self-rising)
  • 3 cups chicken broth
  • 1 teaspoon dried thyme
  • 1 bay leaf
  • salt and pepper to taste
  • 1/4 teaspoon Worcestershire sauce
  • 4 cups diced cooked chicken
  • 2 1/2 cups frozen mixed vegetables, thawed and/or cooked; or a mixture of cooked peas and carrots
Directions

1) Preheat the oven to 350°F.
2) To make the dumplings: Place the flour into a bowl, and work in the butter until the mixture resembles coarse bread crumbs. Stir in the herbs. Cover and refrigerate while you make the filling.
3) To make the filling: Melt the butter in a 3-quart saucepan over medium heat. Whisk in the flour; cook for 1 minute.
4) Add the broth 1/2 cup at a time, whisking it into the flour and butter to prevent lumps. When all the broth has been added, season with the thyme, bay leaf, salt, pepper, and Worcestershire sauce. Simmer the sauce for 15 minutes, then stir in the chicken and vegetables. Keep the mixture at a low simmer while you finish the dumplings.
5) To finish the dumplings: Whisk the buttermilk and egg together and add to the dry dumpling mixture, stirring just until evenly moistened.
6) To assemble: Scoop the batter onto the simmering filling, using a Muffin Scoop or 1/4-cup measure. Leave some space between the dumplings; they'll almost double in size as they cook. Put the lid on the pan, and bake for 25 to 30 minutes.
7) Remove from the oven, and scoop a dumpling and a portion of the filling onto each serving plate. Serve hot.
Yield: 7 to 8 generous servings.


I hope the processing goes well,

Ron
I LOVE chicken and dumplings. YUM!! Maybe I will make that for supper. :D

There is a thread on the meat board that shows pics and step by steps of the whole process- kill to cut up and ready to cook. It was hard to read through at first but I did a few times and it got better. I decided that I think I'd rather have turkeys for most of our poultry. 1 turkey could equal 3 chickens in terms of meat so it would take fewer to fill up my freezer...those are my newbie thoughts. Who knows maybe turkeys are extremely difficult to process. :|
 
Yes! Growing up, Mom would tell us to pick out a chicken for making Chicken and Dumplings.

It was worth the work.

Pulling out the feathers is not that bad. You get a routine and a rhythm going. It's also something that goes much faster with help.

Chicken in general has a better feed to meat conversion than turkeys(unless I read the chart wrong
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), so pound per pound it is cheaper to feed a chicken. There are even some breeds that can forage for themselves, like this one: http://www.freedomrangerhatchery.com/learnmore

Ron
 
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Yes! Growing up, Mom would tell us to pick out a chicken for making Chicken and Dumplings.

It was worth the work.

Pulling out the feathers is not that bad. You get a routine and a rhythm going. It's also something that goes much faster with help.

Chicken in general has a better feed to meat conversion than turkeys(unless I read the chart wrong
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), so pound per pound it is cheaper to feed a chicken. There are even some breeds that can forage for themselves, like this one: http://www.freedomrangerhatchery.com/learnmore

Ron
I was more thinking of processing time actually. For 15 pounds of chicken (3-4 chickens) vs 15 pounds of turkey (possibly one turkey) I am curious how much more/less time one is over the other. I don't mind feeding them longer. I personally am not a huge chicken lover (eater). It's ok and I like it in some dishes (like dumplings) but I do love turkey! My turkey book explains a bit of some of the breeds and how long for them to reach butchering age and it's definitely longer than chicken. But processing 15 turkeys over 50 chickens sounds like less butchering and feather picking and cutting etc in the end. BUT I have never processed my own birds so I honestly do not know. There are 7 of us at supper time and we eat about 1 1/2 supermarket chickens for one supper- so if my homegrown chickens are smaller than the grocery store birds- then def 2 birds for one meal (although I often cook up 2 birds, we eat roasted chicken one meal and then I turn the leftovers into a new meal). One 20 lb turkey (homegrown would likely be smaller I know) at thanksgiving gives us one meal of roasted turkey, plus sandwiches, plus 2 other dishes plus using the carcass and tidbits for soup. It's almost a whole week of meals for us if we are careful and I only had to butcher and process the one bird.

I am new at this so I TOTALLY welcome everyones experiences shared. I am thinking out loud. We haven't made the for sure decision to do turkeys next year. We are still researching, listening to the experiences of others and taking our time. :D
 
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I'm not sure I have a favorite breed yet:
The first & only BO that I have had until 2 weeks ago, died within its first week... that was the breed that made me want to raise chickens.
3 years later, I have my 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, & 6th BO so maybe they will prove to be a favorite still.
I have only raised RIR, BR, a leghorn roo, black sexlinks & a white corchin and out of those, the corchin was my favorite.
But, I know have such a variety that I currently have a few favorites!
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Thanks for asking... what's your favorite breed?

All 10 of mine were feed store hatchery chicks. One each of BR, BO, SLW, Australorp, Welsummer, gold sex link, New Hampshire, White Leghorn (was sold as Delaware), and 2 EEs (one turned out roo
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). I got them for eggs and pets, and I doubt I will ever have the guts to kill one, even though I think it is better than what the store bought chickens go through. It's been fun watching the different personalities emerge, and so far the BR and the leghorn are the most personable.

My favorites are the EE/Ameraucanas. I raised 3 hens about 20 years ago (back when the feed stores sold them as Araucana) and they were great. Especially enjoyed the colored eggs.

By the way, how did the processing session go? I've see it done many times, but am too wimpy to administer the death blow. Probably just never been hungry enough!! Although now that my little roo has begun crowing, starting at 4am!... Well no, I'm going to try to find him a home.
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(Although if someone else wants to eat him, that's ok.)
 
zoowemama, I process my own birds a lot. A turkey is easier to get your hand in, but harder to heave around and scald. I'm still keeping my eyes out for a ten gallon stock pot for that, or a 35-gallon drum that I can cut down to use as one. I can sort of scald my heritage turkeys one end at a time in my five gallon pot but the broad-breastfed varieties just get too big. I can't even fit them into my killing cone, and have to use the hatchet. If you raise your own Cornish crosses, they get much larger than the grocery store chickens, to ten or twelve pounds. I have a few entries about poultry processing on the blog I link to in my signature. The flavor difference is amazing. I've got a batch of Jumbo Pekins ready to go now, which will be a new one for me. I'm going to try waxing them when I scald them for the first time.
 
zoowemama, I process my own birds a lot. A turkey is easier to get your hand in, but harder to heave around and scald. I'm still keeping my eyes out for a ten gallon stock pot for that, or a 35-gallon drum that I can cut down to use as one. I can sort of scald my heritage turkeys one end at a time in my five gallon pot but the broad-breastfed varieties just get too big. I can't even fit them into my killing cone, and have to use the hatchet. If you raise your own Cornish crosses, they get much larger than the grocery store chickens, to ten or twelve pounds. I have a few entries about poultry processing on the blog I link to in my signature. The flavor difference is amazing. I've got a batch of Jumbo Pekins ready to go now, which will be a new one for me. I'm going to try waxing them when I scald them for the first time.
It's been a long time since I ate a home raised chicken, but my memory says they taste a lot different from what you get in the store. I did read that the flavor of the meat gets stronger because they get old enough for the hormones to kick in and flavor the meat.

When I was little, my Dad raised some Cornish crosses and they were big and like I said, I remember them as being delicious.


I will find out for myself soon.

Ron
 
zoowemama, I process my own birds a lot. A turkey is easier to get your hand in, but harder to heave around and scald. I'm still keeping my eyes out for a ten gallon stock pot for that, or a 35-gallon drum that I can cut down to use as one. I can sort of scald my heritage turkeys one end at a time in my five gallon pot but the broad-breastfed varieties just get too big. I can't even fit them into my killing cone, and have to use the hatchet. If you raise your own Cornish crosses, they get much larger than the grocery store chickens, to ten or twelve pounds. I have a few entries about poultry processing on the blog I link to in my signature. The flavor difference is amazing. I've got a batch of Jumbo Pekins ready to go now, which will be a new one for me. I'm going to try waxing them when I scald them for the first time.
I would LOVE to hear what your experience is after processing the Pekins. We won't be eating any of the ducks we currently have but have talked about getting more Pekins and raising them off to the site for this. I would be curious if the processing is just awful compared to chickens. (i read that geese have the most feathers, then ducks then chickens)

Where is a good place to buy Cornish crosses for a fair price? I read that you would ideally want to raise a good 20+ to make it worth your while and spend a weekend processing depending how many there were. That you can rent a feather plucker? Which saves enormously on time.

I appreciate the info about turkey processing. I think I'd die if I overlooked that about the scalding/size (which I more than likely would have being a newbie booby about all this and got to that point!
 

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