Call Ducks Finally Hatched

[Starkasm]

Well, I don't have any now. Long story short, my old lab who is around my birds all the time, decided yesterday that she would eat my whole flock of ducks. She has been around these ducks almost 24/7 since they were hatched 6 weeks ago. She's been around chickens much longer and I've never seen her as much as chase a bird. I don't understand what made her do it. I've got 16 more eggs back in the incubator and a training collar on the way for my old dog. Just makes me sick.

I have to agree that the sudden change in behavior sounds odd. Are you 100% sure it was her? If something else got them, it wouldn't be unheard of if she was attracted to the already gone ones.....
We always get juvenile foxes coming in the spring, that can do some major damage in just minutes.

 

[RuzichFamily]

I have to agree that the sudden change in behavior sounds odd. Are you 100% sure it was her? If something else got them, it wouldn't be unheard of if she was attracted to the already gone ones.....
We always get juvenile foxes coming in the spring, that can do some major damage in just minutes.

Well, I can't be 100% sure I guess, I couldn't find the remains of one & figured she ate it. Although the portion of the yard they were in is about 3/4 acre fenced in and a long way from any cover, my lab is usually very protective and territorial and we've never had anything make it in the yard so far and are missing no other free range poultry. I guess she could have been sleeping, she does that a lot more now & doesn't wake up like she used too, lol. I put her out w/ my chickens yesterday then went in house & watched, she just lay down & went to sleep in the sun paying no attention to the birds. I guess this is like a tootsie pop, the world may never know, haha

 

[BirdyGirl7198]

Hey there! I'm just wondering if any of you think this could be a black call duckling??
It's chest has a silver tint to it.
Thanks!

 

[Dianne1928]

Here is something interesting that I came across.

Little Heirloom Acres
Farm & Preserve
NEWS
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Two Is Bliss ,But Three Is a Deadly Crowd! The Seedy Side of Male Duck Behavior:
The natural world is set on the premise of only the strong survive and those that do make the cut go on to breed, reproduce and alter the genetics of a species. One cannot overlook these instincts when raising animals. Whether it be stallions, rams or domestic male ducks, the need to compete over food, territory and the right to breed holds precedence over all other life activities. Its the very thing that keeps animal species and breeds strong and able to withstand what nature throws at them. Failing to recognize these very instincts can lead to disaster in a domestic setting. Domestic animals are all too often destined to live in cramped pens and enclosures. These small areas in which domestic animals are forced to live are a hotbed for aggressive, territorial disputes. It seems even more common to give domestic poultry inadequate housing and pens. Not only are these small areas a breeding ground for disease, but they also lead to exceptionally aggressive behavior. Domestic male ducks seem to be especially aggressive with each other when kept in such spaces. Two males with a couple of females is fine. The males will determine
that small pecking order and one will be the alpha duck and one will be happy being the subordinent. Sure small fights may develop between males, but usually it is just isolated to small pecks and pushing. However, when three or more males are forced to live together in a small area with access to females, the small fights can escalate into something much more sinister. The strong urge to breed and fight over territory causes a struggle of power to develop between the males in the flock, with the lowest bird often succumbing in the brawl. The two top males will usually form an alliance and gang up on the lowest birds. Deaths are very common in such situations. Without actually seeing the fights, denuded feathers on the backs of the males necks, missing feathers on the back between the wings, vent feathers pulled out and chests feathers missing are all signs of aggressive male behavior. These bare spots usually include lacerations, with small skin infections resulting. Sticky eye or eye infections are also a common sign of male on male aggression. This occurs because of the saliva in the males mouth. When males mock mate other males out of hierarchy disputes, the top male will pin down the lower bird in an action very similar to mating behavior. This is however much more aggressive than normal mating rituals between male and female. The top male will usually grab and jab at the eye of the lower bird. The sticky saliva from the male coats the losers eyes in bacteria. Minor to severe conjunctivitis usually occurs with such episodes. If signs of fighting are not recognized and remedied in a timely manner, deaths can be expected.

Keeping a multiple male mixed flock safe:
Keeping multiple males of three or more in a mixed flock of male and females is not an impossibility. However, you must follow some important guidelines. A good rule of thumb is five females to every male in the flock. This does not mean that they can be kept this way in a small enclosure. Their enclosure has to be very large, preferably with hiding spaces for the lowest males to get away from top overly aggressive males. A minimum of 50 square feet per bird needs to be allowed at all times, night and day. If one cannot provide such a situation, it is better to keep only two males to a female flock, no matter how many extra females are in the flock. Because of the high libido of many breeds of domestic ducks, (Runner and Pekin are very sexually aggressive) enough females must be provided in the pen so as to keep too much attention on any one individual female in the flock and causing damage to the head and back of the females neck. Gang mating can also sometimes be a problem. This can happen if only one or two females at a time are ovulating. All the males in the flock will sometimes chase down these ovulating females. Once they corner the female they will pile on top of her, sometimes three or more at once. If this happens to be while in swimming water, the female is at risk of drowning. If it happens on land, suffocation or leg damage can occur. Keeping a higher number of females in a flock will lessen the chances of this scenario. However, one must be very observant during the first weeks of a flocks egg laying cycle. Some females will come into lay earlier than the others. This will cause the males in the flock to seek out these females during the beginning weeks of the flock laying cycle. Sometimes the only solution is to remove the males until a greater number of females in the flock are laying on a regular basis. A watchful eye on flock dynamics will keep injuries to a minimum.
Bachelor Groups:
Bachelor groups can be a great way of keeping males happy and social, without the risk to the females or each other. Again, certain guidelines will have to be followed for the greatest success and to ensure the safety of the males. It has been observed here at Little Heirloom Acres, that breeds tend to get along better with their own kind. When given a choice, breeds will seek out companionship from their own kind and will usually develop closer bonds than with companions of differing breeds. Keeping all one breed male group has other advantages too. Because there is little size difference among individuals in single breed flocks, fighting between males won't be so deadly and damage to one another over small disputes will usually be minor. All male flocks should be given large living quarters with at least 50 - 60 square feet per bird. They should have plenty of room at the feeding stations, an adequate number of bathing tubs and water buckets (1 bucket or tub per 3 birds) and most importantly, bachelor groups should be out of eyesight and if possible, earshot of female ducks. Taking these measurers will lessen the chances of competition and fighting among members of the bachelor group. Once these groups establish their pecking order, they should remain unchanged. Adding a new bird can be risky, as all the members of the flock will attack the new member. If a new male has to be added to an existing bachelor flock, all members of that flock and new comers must be divided into paired groups for at least one month. After their one month bonding time, all the male pairs can be let out together into a communal pen. This pair bonding between males will ensure no one bird will bare the brunt of the entire flock. Still, a watchful eye will keep things safe.

Note: This article focuses on domestic ducks of Mallard decent. Male Muscovy ducks require completely different care. Rarely if ever can two male Muscovy ducks be kept in the same enclosure. Male Muscovy are highly territorial and will not allow another male into their territory. Bloody and deadly battles will be common place with these pairings. Male Muscovy generally should not be kept together once they reach sexual maturity at age 24 weeks.

The Boys Always Seem to Get the Short End of the Stick:
So many male ducks are abandon, abused or just thrown away. They are deemed as problems and many people have trouble dealing with their aggressive behaviors. Following some simple rules and knowing the instinctual behaviors of these wonderful boys will enable you to keep them as members of your farm family. Keeping male ducks need not be any more trouble than the females. If acquiring ducks for your farm, please be sure to do your research before taking the plunge into duck keeping. Know what keeping such birds entails and make sure you will be able to give them the protection, accommodations and love they deserve. We currently have many rescued male ducks at our farm. All these were either abused or dumped and in all probability, it was do to their natural behaviors that people were not capable of dealing with or refused to educate themselves about.
William
Little Heirloom Acres
Farm & Preserve


2008 Little Heirloom Acres Farm and Preserve

 

[RuzichFamily]

WOW, that' is crazy, doesn't make any sense...

agreed. but onto happier things, I had my only viable ringneck pheasant hatch this morning, so tiny! I've hatched bantams & whatnot but this thing is so small in my wife's hands that I can't image how small it'll look in mine! I don't know sex yet but its in the brooder w/ a plush duck for a buddy lol

 

[Lacrystol]

Well, I can't be 100% sure I guess, I couldn't find the remains of one & figured she ate it. Although the portion of the yard they were in is about 3/4 acre fenced in and a long way from any cover, my lab is usually very protective and territorial and we've never had anything make it in the yard so far and are missing no other free range poultry. I guess she could have been sleeping, she does that a lot more now & doesn't wake up like she used too, lol. I put her out w/ my chickens yesterday then went in house & watched, she just lay down & went to sleep in the sun paying no attention to the birds. I guess this is like a tootsie pop, the world may never know, haha

Is she sick? Is she throwing up or does she have diareer, If not, I would say NO to the dog. I would say she didn't get them. Something else did.. eating that much chicken will upset there stomachs exspecially the bones!!!!

Another sign is she eating a lot of grass to force her self to throw up...

 

[Lacrystol]

Hey there! I'm just wondering if any of you think this could be a black call duckling??
It's chest has a silver tint to it.
Thanks!

NO, I WOULD SAY IT NOTHING BUT ADORABLE. LOL

 

[Lacrystol]

agreed. but onto happier things, I had my only viable ringneck pheasant hatch this morning, so tiny! I've hatched bantams & whatnot but this thing is so small in my wife's hands that I can't image how small it'll look in mine! I don't know sex yet but its in the brooder w/ a plush duck for a buddy lol

AWWW that is a tiny duck. LOL

 

[RuzichFamily]

Is she sick?  Is she throwing up or does she have diareer, If not, I would say NO to the dog.  I would say she didn't get them.  Something else did..  eating that much chicken will upset there stomachs exspecially the bones!!!!

Another sign is she eating a lot of grass to force her self to throw up...

She's not acted sick or any loose stool. None of my friends think it was her either but we can't figure out what woulda have been so bold to cross open ground mid day. I did see a stray dog lately but getting through the fence would be tough. I hope you're right, I don't want to believe it was her. Only 26 more days until my next hatch!

 

[Lacrystol]

She's not acted sick or any loose stool. None of my friends think it was her either but we can't figure out what woulda have been so bold to cross open ground mid day. I did see a stray dog lately but getting through the fence would be tough. I hope you're right, I don't want to believe it was her. Only 26 more days until my next hatch!

Yeh, she would be sick to her stomach if she ate all of them, I would think, Heck I give my dogs a peanut butter sandwich and you would think I gave them poision. LOL So I would be skepictal about her being the one.. Just doesn't add up right.

Now we had a german shepard that like my chickens but he didn't attack them all in one day, he would do it every day. So a couple one day, more the next etc. Now if that's happened, I would be more incline to say UH yeh, you have a problem but you would actually be able to catch her then.

Let me ask you something is the entire body being devoured or just the heads or are they just completely disappearing?