Calling all Hmong (black meat) chicken breeders

You could always put a couple of mixed breed hens in with your extra rooster. You could sell hatching eggs. I have mixed breed hens with black skin, and I can't find any roosters to go with them because the breeds with black skin are so expensive! I understand why they are of course! If something is rare, then it will be expensive! I think a lot of people just like interesting chickens, and don't care about breed though.
I have access to about 40 layers so I'm going to bring a few down to give these hens some relief. Two have gone broody so the breeding pressure is just too much, I'm starting to see rooster damage. I hadn't thought about actually crossing them, it would be easy enough to do. I've seen some spectacular "hybrid fibros" I am just so food oriented I never think of the 'pet' market. I picked some easter eggers so it would be easy to pull their eggs. Thanks for the suggestion.
 
I found two threads about them here on BYC. One of them mentions two general body types and you seem to have the less upright type. The ones I'm familiar with have a more aseel look to them. Very pretty birds.

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I found two threads about them here on BYC. One of them mentions two general body types and you seem to have the less upright type. The ones I'm familiar with have a more aseel look to them. Very pretty birds.

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I've seen this too and came to the same conclusion.
 
There's a guy in ottsville in southeast Pennsylvania who just posts 26 Cemami for sale on byc.
I'm in the PNW unfortunately. I have thought about picking up some other fibros but I'd rather keep these guys pure hmong. I missed buying some silver hmong in Ridgefield WA, they were posted and then taken down..in case you're still out there!!
 
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I have a few hmong chickens (not really, but cross with thai). A half hen is sitting on eggs yesterday. I cross her back to her father who is a full-blooded hmong.
 
I have seen two types among Hmong people's chickens. Silkie crosses, that look like the ones pictured above, and the more traditional hmong chickens that are just thai games gone feral and having some of the gameness bred out a little from crossing to barnyard varieties. Some come black skinned, but hey, it's just a trait, they pop up at random. Look up quaib hmoob, that is the more traditional type. The others were probably created stateside with silkie genetics to satisfy that culinary niche.
 
How many flocks have you seen/where/why? Thank you for replying!

I have read extensively about the Fibro hmong, they are definitely not originally created stateside (although they may have been made here as well which is an interesting explanation to the 2 body types.)

My understanding is that you are correct, traditionally the birds are kept essentially feral, with mixed fibro and non fibro birds of a landrace game fowl type. One study I read seemed to indicate some regions have more concentration of fibro than others, but all were mixed to varying degrees. The birds were released to breed and grow in the good season and then essentially rounded up and harvested vs "farmed". There is even some interest in pursuing them for farming as a economic development tool similar to the kadaknath.

If there is anything else you can share about what you know about them or their breeding in the US do tell!
 
They are just basically Thai gamefowl culls intermingled with semi feral bankiva types. Village chickens. If some missionary dropped off a rhode island red it is in there too. The thais themselves aren't incredibly pure. If it won it was used for breeding. Crosses are often tried. All sorts of traits show up in thai games. Beards, muffs, flat combs, even a feather on a leg now and then.

Hmong people are basically the rednecks of Southeast Asia. Very resourceful. Not surprising that the fibro gene would show up in such a region. There are stateside Hmong immigrants that have Thai games like the ones back home, that may or may not have any blood from back home. They are masters of recreating things with what they can get their hands on. It becomes Hmong or Thai, because the people are Hmong or Thai. I have come to understand names more as a form of patriotism than a genetic reference.

Many of the folks that raise Thai games have some of these as meat chickens. Lots of variability. I have Thai crossed on barnyard fowl. Very productive, lots of instinct, and big. Do well just foraging in the pasture. Not extremely winter hardy, but prolific enough for that not to matter.

The Thais and Ga Noi seem to be very productive compared to their Asil or Shamo counterparts. It seems that the people of that region had an eye on dual, or actual triple purpose fowl. Entertainment, eggs and meat.

I have thai type crossed on bankiva type games as well. More winter hardy and take foraging to a whole new level. Could create an epidemic around your place if you let them. I have to literally hunt them to keep them in check. No fibro gene in any of mine though. Have seen fibro games of differnt types though.
 

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