Calling all Hmong (black meat) chicken breeders

[Lynda Hemmerich]

Hi,

I am a newbie at breeding hmong and I am having a hard time finding much info on the breed. I have a bunch hatched out but I don't really know how to select for the breed. I'm torn between selecting for size/fibro characteristics and maintaining the diversity of the landrace. I was surprised how many colors I got from all back/pak lay colored chickens! Is anyone on the forums raising these still? I have eggs to trade too. I could really use more hens from a fresh line. I have had ok luck hatching in my sportsman, but I'm also interested in any insight about their hatching idiosyncrasies. I've had a consistent, though minimal, number failing to pip/zip but otherwise formed.

I have 2 roosters with 4 hens, and one (third) extra rooster who is hanging in my free range pen with ducks and banties. I need to pair down to two roosters, what characteristics should I look for in selecting my keepers?

I'm curious what anyone knows about the traditional uses for these chickens. I am raising them to sell for meat, are there particular holidays they are used for, and is there any special diet that would improve their quality or desirability? I have read and read and translated lots of pages but I still don't know much except that I've fallen in love with this breed! I have always stuck to ducks for my real breeding projects and these guys won my heart.

I'll get some pictures tomorrow. In addition to the breeders I've hatched out 25 chicks from 1-4 weeks old right now. I can't believe how fast they are growing.

are you still breeding Hmong? I lost my rooster this winter. I'm trying to find one like him. Most other pictures have very long legs and seem slim.

these guys have 5 toes and the hen has a top knot of feathers instead of a comb.

any chance you know where I can get a rooster it fertile eggs?

 

[Ms Biddy]

I'm so sorry you lost your rooster. He was very pretty. The long legs and slim bodies you've noticed in other lines are very characteristic of many Hmong chickens. Examples with top knots and 5 toes likely have Silkie in the mix.

 

[Chang1993]

Maybe the hen is silkies or polish mix. Rooster might be an inbred landrace. I'm selling 10 hmong chickens for reasonable prices, last time I look there only 2 roosters and 8 hens. I might be wrong at this point.

Here a new hatchling of hmong chicks and hen.

 

[Lynda Hemmerich]

I'm so sorry you lost your rooster. He was very pretty. The long legs and slim bodies you've noticed in other lines are very characteristic of many Hmong chickens. Examples with top knots and 5 toes likely have Silkie in the mix.

thanks still looking to find rooster for her. might go black silky

 

[Lynda Hemmerich]

Maybe the hen is silkies or polish mix. Rooster might be an inbred landrace. I'm selling 10 hmong chickens for reasonable prices, last time I look there only 2 roosters and 8 hens. I might be wrong at this point.

Here a new hatchling of hmong chicks and hen.
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sorry I missed your response. do you still have chicks? can you send some pictures of the parents? what does landrace mean?

 

[Chang1993]

Here are the parents. My rooster of course is a 1/4 landrace and 3/4 ayam cemani. My hen is a landrace.

Here's the pair that I am selling.

I still have more in the brooder and more will be hatching soon.

 

[Lynda Hemmerich]

Here are the parents. My rooster of course is a 1/4 landrace and 3/4 ayam cemani. My hen is a landrace.

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Here's the pair that I am selling.

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I still have more in the brooder and more will be hatching soon.

what does landrace mean? if the roo is 3/4 ayam shouldn't he be black?

these guys don't look anything like what I had. what do you think they are?

 

[Chang1993]

Landrace means a local cultivar or animal breed that has been improved by traditional agricultural methods. By seeing your rooster it might like the the phrase 'animal breed that has been improved by traditional' but might has been breed in father to daughter, brother to sister, or son to mother. My rooster supposed to black like his mother, but his mother carries reccessive white in the genetics which makes my rooster fully white and has the face of his father.

 

[speedy2020]

I know this is an old thread. If you want to find out the standard of the breed, checkout Youtube. There is a young person in that village trying to preserve the breed.

 

[MissLavender]

There are several different types of Hmong. All are the result of hundreds of years of selective breeding and were passed down in Hmong families from father to son
Pak Lay/Pay Lay Hmongs have a more squat build with short legs, and are dual purpose. They're good layers of small cream colored eggs and many have fibromelanistic traits. This is the type you seem to have just based on their build.
Qaib Xiav Hmong I don't know a lot about, but I think they're mixed landrace meat birds???
Qaib Hmoob Hmongs have a lot of Oriental Gamefowl in them, and are bred more for their beauty, sometimes fighting and for meat. This is the type I have. Pictures below: