Calling all pictures of Barnevelders

[JamesA]

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Hi James, I'm not an expert since I just got my Barnies last year, but your egg color looks pretty nice of course we all dream Barnies could lay like a Black Copper Marans. I've heard that yellow leg color can fade when a hen is laying. My hen's legs are not bright yellow, but they were before the pullets started laying. It also can be effected by what you feed. I think as long as they don't have white skin or white legs, there are other things more important to work towards perfecting with the Barnie breed.

Pullet's and Cockerel's legs: Bright yellow

https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/30473_barnevelder_cockerel_and_pullet_5_months.jpg



Hen's legs: See how they faded, I also don't feed as much corn and they don't get as much greens (can't free range as much as they used to)

https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/30473_barnevelder_pullet_cropped_pic.jpg


As for lacing, here is a picture of one of mine that I got from C. Ledford. The lacing is really good on her birds. Julie Gabbard's birds have good lacing too. I've seen some so called Barnevelders that don't even come close to double laced or are so mossed that they look like a Welsummer or partridge rock/wyandotte. Not even close to breed standard.

https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/30473_barnevelder_hen_pattern.jpg

I wished I could get that orangy yellow leg color like your birds.Mine just seem bright yellow until as you said they start laying then leg color fades..My lacing also needs weork but it seem like to get good leg color and lacing you give up egg color and to get egg color you give up leg color and lacing.It's a real battle.I still love them and will try to one day get both.

 

[Eagle2026]

I also see that you sell hatching eggs!

JamesA those are some nice pictures and I will be adding alittle of your blood to mine very soon.
Thanks for the pics

NICE!!!
Mike

 

[JamesA]

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Thanks Mike that honestly means alot.I'm planning on getting a few peoples bird brought into my flock so I can continue to work on my lines.Since I'm not an expert what do barnevelder breeders try to work on first egg color or type or just try to get it all at the same time.I know we all want very typy birds that lays a very nice dark eggs but getting there is tuff.

 

[NancyE]

Some great pictures here

 

[PromiseLand]

Here are some of my Barnevelders

 

[pinkchick]

Can Barnevelders be feather sexed?

 

[humm-n-cluck ranch]

they are all so beautiful!!

 

[JamesA]

This is not a flame but an honest question to barnevelder breeders.If a bird has a light chest people say they are mixes so if a barnevelder lays cream colored eggs it would diffently not be a true barnevelder no matter how nice the lacing is. Barnevelders are supose to lay dark eggs period.If the dark egg laying has been breed out of them then they are not barnevelders anymore.Wouldnt this be true? I'm trying to breed for the best birds possible but also breed for dark eggs as barnevelders are supose to have so I'm trying to see what's most important to breeders.

 

[tls_ranch]

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That is a good question James. I think that Barnevelders can lay a darker egg and we just need to select for it more. But, I also think that there has been outcrossing to both Marans, penedesencas, and welsummers. If a breeder wants to outcross it is up to them to breed back to the Barnevelders breed standard. AND have it breed TRUE before marketing the "new line". I wouldn't sell a "Barnevelder" with white legs, feather stubs, side sprigs, no double lacing, partridge markings or welsummer V- marked chicks. These should considered culls and should be sold as egg layers or pets.

Breeders should know the Barnevelder breed standard and work towards it. Select breeding stock carefully and be honest about their stock in both egg color and type. Barnevelders do need work, but what breed doesn't.

If you look at this picture of my eggs, you can see that there is at least hope staying with in the breed and proven lines to improve the egg color.

 

[JamesA]

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That is a good question James. I think that Barnevelders can lay a darker egg and we just need to select for it more. But, I also think that there has been outcrossing to both Marans, penedesencas, and welsummers. If a breeder wants to outcross it is up to them to breed back to the Barnevelders breed standard. AND have it breed TRUE before marketing the "new line". I wouldn't sell a "Barnevelder" with white legs, feather stubs, side sprigs, no double lacing, partridge markings or welsummer V- marked chicks. These should considered culls and should be sold as egg layers or pets.

Breeders should know the Barnevelder breed standard and work towards it. Select breeding stock carefully and be honest about their stock in both egg color and type. Barnevelders do need work, but what breed doesn't.

If you look at this picture of my eggs, you can see that there is at least hope staying with in the breed and proven lines to improve the egg color.

https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/30473_egg_picture_3.jpg

Great information but if birds come very close to meeting the standards as yours do but just say they laid a cream colored egg would you market these birds, chicks or eggs as barnevelders.Me or you neither have this problem but it is an issue with some peoples birds they call barnevelders and I promise I'm not flaming anyone just trying to get information.I've seen some nice looking barnevelders but they lay cream colored eggs.Are these indeed barnevelders?