Calling all teenagers

[Logar]

The spider complex is actually one of my favorite things to debate about lol

 

[Sparrows]

The spider complex is actually one of my favorite things to debate about lol

keep going I'm entertained lol

 

[GracePoultry]

there is wrong with the spider complex. I used to despise them until I got to know more about them and talked with breeders of them. The issues surrounding it are way over exaggerated and 99.9% of spiders live perfectly fine lives. A lot are apparently actually better eaters than. I will never breed them but I will never breed any ball python

wow. I honestly kind of thought most of them had neurological problems.
I think it is said a lot online. I guess I'm just seeing the ones that do deal with it. I said the same thing about enigma disease. I thought I was horrible for getting an enigma gecko but she was fine and it wasn't as common as I thought. (not to say many geckos don't have ES)

 

[Logar]

I honestly kind of thought most of them had neurological problems

Technically they do but in most cases it is just their heads being a bit more wobbly. Completely overblown in most cases. GoHerping’s video on it shows a complete outlier that caused the spider hate to go up 10x

 

[Sparrows]

I was just going to post this

 

[GracePoultry]

Technically they do but in most cases it is just their heads being a bit more wobbly. Completely overblown in most cases. GoHerping’s video on it shows a complete outlier that caused the spider hate to go up 10x

that's the video I saw that started my "spider hate" I think he is knowledgeable but everyone is going to make mistakes. I miss his reptile videos

 

[Logar]

that's the video I saw that started my "spider hate" I think he is knowledgeable but everyone is going to make mistakes. I miss his reptile videos

I had a feeling. The real issue with breeding spiders comes with irresponsible breeding. Spotnose spiders, spotnose Champagnes and similar combos that combine “less powerful” spider complex genes (excluding black head) with “higher” ones causes large amounts of wobble and can lead to animals that suffer

 

[Sparrows]

I had a feeling. The real issue with breeding spiders comes with irresponsible breeding. Spotnose spiders, spotnose Champagnes and similar combos that combine “less powerful” spider complex genes (excluding black head) with “higher” ones causes large amounts of wobble and can lead to animals that suffer

is it due to inbreeding?

 

[Logar]

is it due to inbreeding?

No. The wobble is “coded” into the gene.

 

[Sparrows]

No. The wobble is “coded” into the gene.

oh ok. So the breeders breeded that in?