Can I get some help with color and sex.

[Lil Zoo]

With the wing drooping that far down it looks like maybe it was broken somewhere on the last segment or the joint joining the second and third segment and didn't heal properly.Can you feel a knot where the hanging starts? If so thats where it was broke and healed up.If it is still bendable in that location it has not yet healed and then you would have a chance to cut all the feathers close to the skin and make a straight splint and tape the wing as it should be.

I felt it when I removed him from the incubator it felt perfectly normal to a newbie no breaks. I couldn't see the fan getting it any where or how. Of course I was mostly worried about his being scalped which was mainly on the left side of his head. I thought maybe he was holding it down to keep more steady, or just being weak from his injury, but he continued after he healed. Then I just figured maybe the fan did a little brain damage being it was his right wing and the fan mostly scalped the left side of his head. It isn't just the bottom portion it kind of all sags a bit. I noted before when he stretched his wings the right one goes out but not fully or high. I think since it happened the same time as the scalping it is a result.

 

[Yoda]

Yoda,if you remember late last winter I started a thread about my supposed Midnight B/S not looking like a Midnight B/S? I bought and hatched out 5 Midnight B/S chicks from a seller in Iowa,,but I started to have serious doubts as to the true color of his eggs because of the 5 Midnight B/S eggs I got to hatch from him,I got 1 male and it turned out to be a IB B/S,,Not a Midnight.This is why I bought a Midnight B/S male from Hopkins this March,,,but I do not know for sure of the 4 hens I hatched from him are indeed Midnight B/S or IB B/S hens,,but there is no pied visible on any of the 5 birds in this pen,and the eggs were not mismarked,,I'm very particular about that and keep daily records of each pens eggs laid as well as which eggs are incubated-sold.Pecky could indeed be an IB pied,but Pokey coming from my Midnight B/S pen,,even tho she exhibits solid white feathers here and there,If she turns into a pied I'd guess it's from one of the hens in that group,which would be an added bonus if I knew which hen it was.

Frenchy, soon everyone will be calling you by this name LOL and I started it LMAO!

But anyways what I wanted to say was, we do not know the backgrounds on our birds. For example my Charcoal pair I got from Deerman. He is a charcoal white eye and his mate is an India Blue split to charcoal. Last year I got 10 chicks - 3 charcoals 1m/2f, 4 pure whites, 1 pied and 2 IB. What a variety of colors from 2 adults that show no white on them other then the white eyes on the train. This year from the same pair I am getting pieds and a charcoal. I will never know what each adult bird's background will be cause he passed away before I could ask. All I remember Deerman saying is he never got those colors LOL and for me not to sell them. He said if the female white hens lay then they are white IB split to charcoal. If they do not lay any eggs they are white charcoal and would look great free ranging. The white males can be the same as the hen either white charcoals or white IB split to charcoal. So just because your Midnight BS doesn't show any pied doesn't mean it isn't split to it somewhere in the gene pool. It's hard when you purchase eggs or birds and you do not know the background of the bird as well too. Not everyone keeps records like they should. When buying eggs from Ebay I think of that. The only info the breeder has is most likely what is written on the egg LOL. That seller isn't hatching any just selling them so he most likely isn't going to keep the info like you do.

 

[Lil Zoo]

Unbelievable. So as I'm starting out, trying to keep single colors in each pen because I don't know enough genetics yet. I still may not produce what I think I am suppose to, because of possible many splits a previous breeders did. I'm going to have to learn to identify my peachicks. You all have a lot of work to do to train me all this. It is kind of fun showing the pictures seeing a debate then learning at the same time. Thank you.
I am headed to Mayo Clinic today in hopes of finding why I have felt crappy for over a year. Please keep me in your thoughts and prayers this week. I'll miss watching this forum.
Betty

 

[zazouse]

hope they find out why too.
I totally understand what you mean about the peas, i don't know what i have anymore to many mixes out there nowdays. just got to bred them to see what ya get.