Can you feed broilers with broiler meat.

[Skcup]

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Can you elaborate on this? I would have thought this would be a very bad idea considering chemical euthanasia (as is the practice at the pounds here), renders a carcass that is oozing toxins and poison from the injection. We cannot bury chemically euthanized horses because of the chemicals (in addition to other leachates from the carcass) entering the ground water. I'm surprised that it would be considered safe to feed chemically euthed animals to other animals!

 

[gogoalie]

BCE didn't come from the meat, perse, but the infected brains of cows that were within the meat...BCE is the animal form of Kuru...

 

[johnscalido]

Everyone agrees then that this is not a bad practice. I have stumbled on something from Lohmans. I cannot find the webpage for some reason but some sort of study was done on this type of practice in Myanmar and they had a lot of statistics on the page. Anyone knows about this! Can anyone help!

 

[The Chicken Lady]

I don't have any information on this for you, John, but I did want to say

and I hope you find an answer to this question. It's an interesting topic.

 

[SpringChickens]

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Can you elaborate on this? I would have thought this would be a very bad idea considering chemical euthanasia (as is the practice at the pounds here), renders a carcass that is oozing toxins and poison from the injection. We cannot bury chemically euthanized horses because of the chemicals (in addition to other leachates from the carcass) entering the ground water. I'm surprised that it would be considered safe to feed chemically euthed animals to other animals!

ETA - Sorry, I missed the line you were referring to - see my next post down!!

None of these animals would have been euthanized using chemical euthanasia. They cattle were probably slaughtered with a captive bolt and the chicken were likely stunned in water with an electrical current then bled out.

The main problem with feeding animals to themselves is the risk of disease. BSE (Mad cow) got passed on when the infected spinal cord of one cow was fed to another - there are two major problems here. 1) the slaughtering of a sick cow for consumption 2) the spinal cord was not adequately removed from the meat. If you don't slaughter animals which are visibly ill and ensure that the spinal cord is removed completely, meat can be a good choice for feed; especially to omnivores like chickens!

 

[SpringChickens]

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I would be interested to know your sources for this. I have a VERY hard time believing this statement, primarily because I work at a vet school which can't use animals from the pound for teaching purposes because the boosters for the animal shelter won't allow it. The animal can be scheduled to be euthanized, but the vet school cannot be the ones euthanizing the animal or even using its carcass following euthanasia. Instead, we are forced to buy dogs at $1000 each to use for teaching purposes.

If the shelter won't donate the carcasses to the vet school, I have a very difficult time thinking that they would allow them to be sold for pet food.

 

[johnscalido]

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Can you elaborate on this? I would have thought this would be a very bad idea considering chemical euthanasia (as is the practice at the pounds here), renders a carcass that is oozing toxins and poison from the injection. We cannot bury chemically euthanized horses because of the chemicals (in addition to other leachates from the carcass) entering the ground water. I'm surprised that it would be considered safe to feed chemically euthed animals to other animals!

ETA - Sorry, I missed the line you were referring to - see my next post down!!

None of these animals would have been euthanized using chemical euthanasia. They cattle were probably slaughtered with a captive bolt and the chicken were likely stunned in water with an electrical current then bled out.

The main problem with feeding animals to themselves is the risk of disease. BSE (Mad cow) got passed on when the infected spinal cord of one cow was fed to another - there are two major problems here. 1) the slaughtering of a sick cow for consumption 2) the spinal cord was not adequately removed from the meat. If you don't slaughter animals which are visibly ill and ensure that the spinal cord is removed completely, meat can be a good choice for feed; especially to omnivores like chickens!

Correct. None of the animals were euthanased in this incident. I have also spoken to former farm worker, who by the way "does not want to be named for reasons" who is currenty employed by my wife. He agrees that the birds are simply stunned and bled. He also says that the farmer only uses the meat and not the head or bones or feet. According to him he was the one assigned to making the "broiler feed'. He only used the meat from the bird. Is this OKAY then.

 

[CoopCrazy]

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I would be interested to know your sources for this. I have a VERY hard time believing this statement, primarily because I work at a vet school which can't use animals from the pound for teaching purposes because the boosters for the animal shelter won't allow it. The animal can be scheduled to be euthanized, but the vet school cannot be the ones euthanizing the animal or even using its carcass following euthanasia. Instead, we are forced to buy dogs at $1000 each to use for teaching purposes.

If the shelter won't donate the carcasses to the vet school, I have a very difficult time thinking that they would allow them to be sold for pet food.

Honestly I worked for our local Animal Control for three years and yes this is a common practice. We would take them to Griifin industries once a month, and the profits went towards the care of the animals...

 

[johnscalido]

This is a very interesting topic agreed. I must say it has increased my interest in backyard farming. This is only one farmer. Who knows. They might be throwing "pigeon meal" in the food next.

 

[eKo_birdies]

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I would be interested to know your sources for this. I have a VERY hard time believing this statement, primarily because I work at a vet school which can't use animals from the pound for teaching purposes because the boosters for the animal shelter won't allow it. The animal can be scheduled to be euthanized, but the vet school cannot be the ones euthanizing the animal or even using its carcass following euthanasia. Instead, we are forced to buy dogs at $1000 each to use for teaching purposes.

If the shelter won't donate the carcasses to the vet school, I have a very difficult time thinking that they would allow them to be sold for pet food.

Honestly I worked for our local Animal Control for three years and yes this is a common practice. We would take them to Griifin industries once a month, and the profits went towards the care of the animals...

it's sad, but true... that is why it is important to know what our pets are eating, as well.

i thought it was common knowledge that this was done, guess not. if you take a trip to your local rendering plant... you'll see that this is the unfortunate truth.