Chantecler Thread!

[3riverschick]

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Without hackle black (don't see where Grant talks about cha...will have to re-read his book and note if he even mentions this--no idea if hackle black and cha are the same?). Sigrid lists cha as"charcoal - melanizer, moorkoppe factor." My Dutch sucks (my Hollland imported Oz Swan cob can attest to that--we are not on speaking terms--so confusing!) ...what is moorkoppe factor??? LMBO
Karen here , with some questions in bold type.
Hi Tara, I think cha and Hackle Black are not the same thing. I copy of Grant's' book is stored away. I think Moorkoops is a breed with the coloring she is talking about?


Back to Grant's book...page 109:

Grant believes pretty much that hackle black (Hb) is required the exhibition male Partridges....even in presence of pure Pg. I am not so sure just yet and have not been a full convert. Still think the fuzzy wuzzy, lots of black females are the exhibition cockerel breeders...but then again, maybe the sharp pencilled Pg/Pg girls will make exhibition males...where is that backyard DNA lab to test the chicken genome of our home flocks when you need them, eh?
Ok, here's my question on my Light Sussex I was breeding, I noticed the males were very, very prepotent for their type but the females hatched were just intermediate. This for 2 generations. Could I have had a cockerel breeding line? Light Sussex are eWh S/S Co/Co. Then something showed up in the females. Their hackles spread down across their "withers" in the form of scattered light grey feathers. I thought it was because I had put too much black in those breedings, not attending as I should have to balancing the amount of black in the parent's hackles. Now I wonder if those grey feathers could have been a notice that they were cockerel breeding females? Any thoughts on that? I rehomes the flock before I got a chance to breed any of the grey feathered withered females.
Thanks, Karen

Using Grant's theory then...all we would be selecting for is hackle black and keeping the Pg in pure homozygous form...which would be GOOD in my opinion...have to chaw on that a while and see how much it works in the pens tho. Theories, nothing till proven, eh>

Always something new to try and follow up on.

Doggone & Chicken UP!

Tara Lee Higgins
Higgins Rat Ranch Conservation Farm, Alberta, Canada

 

[FowlStuff]

Hi,
Does anyone have White Chanteclers built with the Silver gene
instead of one of the White genes?
Thanks,
Karen

Silver (S), recessive white (C) and dominant white (I) are at different loci, so white Chanteclers would ideally be at least both recessive white and silver, plus may include dominant white and some other white enhancing genes.

 

[3riverschick]

Silver (S), recessive white (C) and dominant white (I) are at different loci, so white Chanteclers would ideally be at least both recessive white and silver, plus may include dominant white and some other white enhancing genes.

Thanks John,
I was wondering if it might be possible to winnow out an eWh/eWh S/S White Chantecler. I do love the S/S birds. No brassiness. Plus makes it easier to see what one has if crossing colors. (which is not my thing, crossing color I mean). The old time White Large fowl Chanties remind me so much of the Sussex body style. With a hint of Cornish in them. Yelow skin instead of white and a different comb.
Best,
Karen

 

[3riverschick]

John,
I wonder, if one is winnowing out the white gens and sriving for pure Silver, how the intermediate chicks would look in the chick down? I wonder if they would be separate chick down phenotype for Standard White Chanties; heryeo S/W chicks and S/S chick downs?
Best,
Karen

 

[3riverschick]

Stupid windows 10. messing with my spellchecl. That should be above : striving and : hetero.
Best,
Karen

 

[oregonkat]

Does anyone here have a Black Copper Marans (roo) / Chantecler cross? I have a chick of this potential mixture (chick may also be BCM/buff Orpington) and I was wondering what she (hopefully) might look like. Thanks for the time.

 

[Mike8403]

Does anyone have any white Chantecler chicks for sale?

 

[Folly's place]

Where? I have one four month old cockrel, and Candy442 may have some youngsters still, all here in Michigan. Mary

 

[Candy442]

Does anyone have any white Chantecler chicks for sale?

Hi Mike,

As @Folly's place mentioned, we have a few young birds, not chicks at this time. We have hatching eggs and can ship chicks in the spring. We are NPIP. Where are you located?

Candy

 

[Mike8403]

I'm located in MN. Do you ship chicks in the spring?