Chicken Breed Focus Rhode Island Red

[ShrekDawg]

Yes that picture was of RIR eggs but my RSL's lay the same shades and if you took an egg from each without knowing you wouldn't be able to tell them apart.

I can imagine, especially having so many birds and eggs. It'd be like trying to find a needle in a haystack haha I didn't realize they had so many colors, just sorta figured brown is brown, but I guess it does make sense

 

[sandesnow]

WOW, that is great that all 6 eggs hatched. Do you know what line they are from? Just curious.

I actually bought 7, but one was unfertilized. The breeder offered to replace the egg, but I was happy with what I got. I will certainly ask her what lines they are from, as she is local. I transported the eggs myself. I have had great luck with my little incubator, which only holds 7. When I saw pics of her RIR's, I practically drooled. And the fact that I got 7 eggs for 14 dollars still astounds me, and to get a trio out of them to boot!


When it comes to eggs, I found a significant difference between the RIR eggs and the RSL eggs, not only is the shape and size very different, but the texture of the eggs were much different. I have 4 sex links, and most do lay many shades of brown, however the RIR eggs are not as large and they are quite pale in comparison with a very creamy-smooth finish to them when it came to their shells.

 

[cmom]

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I have RSL's too but most of mine came from breeding one of my Single Comb RIR males to Single Comb RIW females. Maybe that is why the eggs are pretty much the same. I have both Rose Comb and Single Comb RIR's and Rose Comb and Single Comb RIW's. I did breed a RC RIR male to RC RIW females and got something totally unexpected. I gave most of those chicks away but kept a couple of them. I am anxious to see how they lay. They aren't quite old enough yet.

 

[Zackman23434]

When speaking of heritage birds and how their lines trace back to the originals, would the same not technically be true for production reds? If it has RIR in it then it also could be traced to original lines. I do understand the difference though.. Just coming up with some food for thought.

 

[cmom]

When speaking of heritage birds and how their lines trace back to the originals, would the same not technically be true for production reds? If it has RIR in it then it also could be traced to original lines. I do understand the difference though.. Just coming up with some food for thought.

No, How can you trace back the lineage of Production Reds? Most are from hatchery stock and no records are kept as to the lineage. I can trace my birds because I got my original birds from a trusted breeder. Here are some good web pages to read.

http://bloslspoutlryfarm.tripod.com/id64.html
http://jimspetsandpoultry.weebly.com/

 

[Zackman23434]

No, How can you trace back the lineage of Production Reds? Most are from hatchery stock and no records are kept as to the lineage. I can trace my birds because I got my original birds from a trusted breeder. Here are some good web pages to read.

http://bloslspoutlryfarm.tripod.com/id64.html
http://jimspetsandpoultry.weebly.com/

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I don't mean are they traceable. What I'm saying is if a bird has Rhode Island Red in it, then it would technically come from the orginals. If it were possible to trace them back I would assume you would find they come from orginials blood lines.

 

[ShrekDawg]

I see what you mean because there's only one breed, right? So even if they eventually branched off or even branched right at the beginning and only had one true RIR parent, they'd still technically have RIR right? Even if now they are completely different mostly. I think I see what you're saying. You're not saying they're the same now, just that they have to have it in them, even if it's way way way back, right?

 

[cmom]

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Well I guess it's all how you look at it but Production Rhode Island Reds have totally lost the characteristics of the original birds. There are people/breeders trying to preserve lines which the Production birds don't have. They have been produced and reproduced so many times that there is very little original characteristics. So what blood line could you trace them back to? Just my thoughts.

 

[ShrekDawg]

Not to flip sides a ton or jump in again because I do still see both sides but i actually just realized something when you said they hardly have any original characteristics: it's probably a lot like dog breeds or duck breeds. Supposedly most ducks come from Mallards, right? And dogs supposedly came from wolves (although I think I read once that it's a totally different wolf than people think and not actually the grey wolf but still. A wolf). Yet I think a Pekin is way different than a Mallard and a Chihuahua sure is a lot different than a wolf lmao just something else to think about. Although I think I would want both eventually but of.course I ordered different breeds but one day I will.

 

[daskhan]

Not to flip sides a ton or jump in again because I do still see both sides but i actually just realized something when you said they hardly have any original characteristics: it's probably a lot like dog breeds or duck breeds. Supposedly most ducks come from Mallards, right? And dogs supposedly came from wolves (although I think I read once that it's a totally different wolf than people think and not actually the grey wolf but still. A wolf). Yet I think a Pekin is way different than a Mallard and a Chihuahua sure is a lot different than a wolf lmao just something else to think about. Although I think I would want both eventually but of.course I ordered different breeds but one day I will.

I would have to disagree not all dogs come from wolves not sure about the ducks but well as far as I know wolves were at one time bears but they came down from the trees and some becames wolves well eventually those wolves spread all over and became different breeds and other things like dingos and jackals and other things well some dogs came from a wolf closer to the original but other dogs came from the others although this is a newer theory I do see the merit