Hello dretd
If you are going to provide this information you really should stand up, be a man, and take responsiblity for your words.
I am taking responsibility right now, answering this post. The warning is a standard disclaimer that I cannot be responsible for any information that may be incorrect. It is up to the reader, hence the term Due Diligence, just like the sign in the parking lot Not Responsible for Loss or Damage.
I never claimed Anything to be fact. You have done your due diligence and I commend you for that, even though you aren't completely correct..
Otherwise you are yelling fire in a crowded room and then say, 'I said I was just kidding before I yelled it'.
Not Exactly the same thing.
First of All Im not trying to Deceive Anyone as you suggest above. I also Dont appreciate the connotation that I attempted deception, especially with the fact that I provide a "due diligence" disclaimer at the very beginning of my post. Unfair representation.
If you want to be taken seriously I would suggest you do the due diligece to make sure your facts are correct and worthy of other's consideration.
Most of my facts are correct, you haven't debunked much of anything. We are all subject to misconception Im not immune from that any more than you are.
I know that many of your points have value, but if you include a bunch of information that is not factual folks will dismiss your ideas as being from a crank.
So what would you consider my percentage of Correctness ?
Sorry to be harsh, but a piece of advice from a skeptic in the middle.
No problem at all, as long as you are not offended in return. I'm not soft skinned, and I can be a little on the harsh side myself. As long as you are ok with it,, I am as well.
It is illegal to give chicken raised and sold for food growth hormones and steroids.
Really ?
Have you heard of GMOd Soy Phhytoestrogens?
Might want to start reading...
http://www.google.ca/search?q=Effec...s=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
While on the surface this may be technically true the devil is in the details and your statement is woefully misleading.
Be careful not to put words in my mouth, I did say fewer as in non epidemic proportions
Are you contending that these diseases and brain dysfunctions are not at epidemic proportions, and havent skyrocketed since the terms were coined ? Because thats what its sounding like to me
No one was diagnosed with these diseases because no one was trained in their diagnosis or the disease had not been established long enough to have criteria to go by to make a proper diagnosis.
I said Fewer,, not No one. These illnesses are still being misdiagnosed to this day. My father died from the results of heavy metal toxicity, when for 10 months I told the doctors that he had HM poisoning..4 doctors flat out Refused to do a simple screening.
Youre twisting my words.
The fact is that these diseases are at epidemic proportions and astronomically higher than they were 100 years ago. We now know that mercury, lead , cadmium and a host of other HM and toxins effect the brain Horrifically. You're Brushing it off, as if I'm making this up.
I also submit that one cannot assume causation just because there is a correlation.
You wouldnt happen to work for Pfizer would you?, because thats exactly what Big Pharma says. In fact the Tobacco industry said the Exact same thing a few short years ago about the correlation between tobacco and cancer . Maybe you'd like to argue that for awhile ?
In some cases a direct correlation has been linked to causation. Believing anything else and its willful blindness on your part.
The incidence of air pollution and out of wedlock births both increased in the mid 20th century but it doesn't mean one caused the other.
Apples and Oranges and Logical Fallacy.. Sorry Try Again.
The youngest mother ever recored was in 1939 with a 5 year old Peruvian girl giving birth
http://www.snopes.com/pregnant/medina.asp so there is evidence of premature puberty back a ways.
So in 1939, what were the figures of female girls entering puberty at a young age ? Have those figures Increased since then, and to what extent ? They've increased Greatly.
Do you believe it is a natural and normal course of life for many very young girls starting their cycle at such a young age ?
Nothing like gmod phytoestrogens or chemicals could be causing these symptoms in young girls Huh?
http://www.google.ca/search?q=effec...s=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
You do understand that store bought chicken is fed a very rich diet of Soy protein( For Growth) containing phytoestrogens (Hormone).
Protein + phytoestrogens = Growth Hormone
As many Mac Nuggets and Chicken fingers are children gobble down,, connecting the dots isnt that hard
Skeptic or not,, you must see the direct connection, Please talk your way out of that debacle..
There is more evidence that earlier mensus may be due to better nutrition and obesity, rather than antibiotic and hormone use although a case could be made that the use of antibiotics has allowed more food to be available to the masses and therefore contributes to the epidemic in obesity that you rightly mentioned earlier.
Again a Direct Correlation, Leading to Causation
Do you actually know anyone that breast fed their kids?
Yup.. My Wife, My sister in laws, my nieces and several other people.. I understand the difficulty (indirectly) of Breastfeeding.. I also know that many women,, more than not give up very early in the process.
Im a proponent of breast feeding. Just sayn
I suspect that more folks are breastfeeding now than in the '50 and '60's.
I highly doubt that. The trend in lifestyle would suggest far less.. Im willing to entertain anything you would like to provide though to say otherwise.
I breast fed my kids, all my friends breastfed their kids and I know plenty of moms who pumped at work and brought it home for their babies.
The same here
Id be willing to bet that more Dont than do
Not Exactly sure what you are disputing here...
Don't go talking about stuff you don't know about.
I highly suggest you take your own Advice, and again I welcome any statistics that you can conjure up.
Eric, I could go on (and on and on) but I think you get the general idea where I am coming from.
Ohh I Do
Youre well intentioned but a little out of touch, dont mind me if I kick at your soap box a little
As far as going on and on
Ill bet you a dozen eggs, Ill win that contest..
Last piece of advice
Please do.. Im always willing to learn, as I hope that you are.
certain vocal members of society have been angrily stirring the pot with outrageous claims many don't, wont or can't verify but they fail to give a clear course of action for the masses they rile up.
Maybe you could be a little clearer on what you attempting to pass along yourself.
Please give a clear, logical, rational course of action to fix the perceived problems.
Strangely enough,, I thought I was giving logical, and rational thought, but I guess you showed me Huh ??
Ive never claimed to be an expert in anything.. Im sometimes wrong.. I refuse to apologize for being wrong when Im standing up for someone or their rights.. If Im wrong,, Ill admit to being wrong.
If you don't then you are really just part of the problem and not part of the solution.
Willful Ignorance can also be part of the problem and none of the solution My Dear!
Peace and Love
Eric
