Chicken Run Composting Design planning

[gtaus]

rWell, my chickens finally scratched all the grass in the chicken run down to the dirt. So I have reconsidered what my goals are at this point.

I have been dumping my grass clippings on the dirt ground in the chicken run and built up about a 2 inch layer. The chickens loved scratching through the clippings and were always finding something to eat. I also liked the look of the fresh, green carpet, not to mention that it smelled great.

Then we got a couple days of rain, the grass got wet, turned brown, and started to mat down. The chickens still kept it scratched up, so it was not really a problem. However, I decided I might as well add a layer of woodchips in the run. The chickens quickly mixed the wood chips in with the grass clippings and now I have a nice, spongy, dark brown carpet in the chicken run. The woodchips broke up the grass clippings from matting and when I walk on the litter it is like walking on a damp sponge. There is no smell, and the color of the mixture is about the same color as the tree bark in the yard. So that is working well.

I also am planning on dumping shredded paper onto the chicken run ground litter, but will cover it with another layer of grass clippings or woodchips. I don't want the chicken run to look like a landfill with the shredded paper, but I am trying to reduce the amount of material I do send to the dump. Also, I don't want paper shreds flying all over the yard.

Leaves are starting to fall and soon (after this rain spell is over) I will be collecting leaves to throw into the chicken run. I have 3 options to collect and process the leaves and am wondering which system would be best for the chickens (if they even care).

Option 1) I have a towable lawn leaf sweeper which sweeps up the leaves whole.
Option 2) I can use my riding lawn mower with grass collection bags to vacuum up the leaves and it will shred them down a little bit, maybe in half or 1/3 original size.
Option 3) I have a wood chipper/shredder that will shred leaves in about a 16:1 ratio, so the leaves come out in small, tiny bits.

Considering I plan on dumping the leaves directly on the chicken run ground, which option would the chickens like best? I am thinking they would like the whole leaves and probably would scratch through them and break them down on their own. The easiest for me is to use the lawn mower with grass bags. The most time consuming option is processing all the leaves through the shredder, but I know that the leave bits would break down faster and turn into compost for use sooner. If anyone has thoughts on these options, I would like to hear them. Thanks in advance.

 

[jthornton]

I like to get a trash can and stuff it full of leaves then turn it upside down in the run and lift the can off. It leaves a tower of leaves, more fun to watch them tear it down.

JT

 

[rosemarythyme]

I throw in leaves whole. No real reason to mulch them down, the chickens scratching at them plus the weather will break them down very quickly with no extra work from you.

If you're planning on storing them (I store my fall leaves through the following spring and summer, then begin collecting again - I use them for both my compost and the chicken run) they really need to be kept dry as possible, so whatever allows you to gather and store them dry is what you want to aim for.

 

[aart]

I like to get a trash can and stuff it full of leaves then turn it upside down in the run and lift the can off. It leaves a tower of leaves, more fun to watch them tear it down.

JT

I love to do this too, sometimes they disappear into the pile!

 

[gtaus]

I like to get a trash can and stuff it full of leaves then turn it upside down in the run and lift the can off. It leaves a tower of leaves, more fun to watch them tear it down.

I have 3 acres of wooded lot, so lots of leaves every fall. But yeah, I have been piling up grass clippings and woodchips into tall towers in the run and enjoy watching the girls tear it down. I'll do the same with leaves.

 

[gtaus]

IIRC, your 'run' is an area circumscribed by un-electrified portable poultry fence?
Any plans to change that for winter to provide more shelter?

I built my 6X12 chicken coop on an old boat trailer frame. It has wheels so I can move it closer to the house in the winter - to access electricity and so my old bones don't have to haul water "all the way back" to the backyard. Actually, it's not that far this time of year, but last winter it was covered by about 4-5 feet of snow. I just don't want to have to maintain that much distance between the house and the coop.

The fence I have for the 13x13 run is 6 foot tall 2x4 wire with bird netting on top. It can be moved if I want because all I did was pound some T-posts into the corners and wrapped the fencing around. I don't know yet where the WIFE and I decided to move the coop for the winter. So I don't even know if I will have a chicken run over winter. I did, however, make the coop about twice as big as needed for 10 chickens so they might not even need any chicken run for the winter. Many people around here say their chickens don't even bother to go out into the run if there is snow on the ground.

If I do build a chicken run for the winter, I would want to wrap it in plastic and maybe have a hard roof overhead for the snow. If I go that route, the run would be much smaller, but big enough to get some fresh air and winter sunshine. Maybe no bigger than what I could fit underneath a 4x8 sheet of exterior plywood as a roof. Small, but maybe good enough for winter months. Thanks for asking. If you have any ideas for winter accommodations, I'd love to hear.

 

[gtaus]

Who knows maybe all that good compost might prompt you to a garden?

Wind is the only draw back with whole leaves.

I do garden, and one of the main reasons I got laying hens was to make compost for me. Compost by the bag is expensive. The eggs are just a bonus. Well, and just the enjoyment I get from having the chickens.

Not too worried about the wind with whole leaves as I suspect they will stay within the chicken run fencing. Also, the chickens will tear it up and trample that stuff down in no time. Next spring it should have made some good compost for the garden.

 

[gtaus]

I let the back yard get a little high, hit it with the side discharge throwing into the uncut, and then right over the clippings about about three or four passes, then turn around and throw it back the other way one pass. Wind rowing basically, let it dry about 2 good windy warm days. Then pick up the wind rows with the bagger. You still have to becareful leave it breathe and watch for fire, because you'll pick up some green when you bag. It ain't hay, but it is good enough for mulch. That's the basics, kind got a grid down on the wind rowing, not much traveling without mowing.

OK. I think that would work if the initial grass was high enough. My normal cutting is too short and the grass clippings would be lost into the soil.

I wonder if there is a way to mow the lawn normally with a bagger, then dry out those grass clippings for storage. That would work better for me. But I could set aside a plot of grass and let it grow taller for wind rowing.

Do you use regular trash bags for storage, or do you use larger/smaller bags for your dried grass storage? Do you compress your dried grass? My concern would be that the grass might start hot composting in the bag and that would not be good.

 

[Don 27]

Wow vary informative

 

[Quackter]

OK. I think that would work if the initial grass was high enough. My normal cutting is too short and the grass clippings would be lost into the soil.

I wonder if there is a way to mow the lawn normally with a bagger, then dry out those grass clippings for storage. That would work better for me. But I could set aside a plot of grass and let it grow taller for wind rowing.

Do you use regular trash bags for storage, or do you use larger/smaller bags for your dried grass storage? Do you compress your dried grass? My concern would be that the grass might start hot composting in the bag and that would not be good.

I have bagged it first, it really has to be spread thin, and you have to turn it really frequently. Another thing I ran into was just over night most of the moisture would go to the bottom. I was doing it on a tarp, the bottom inch would be a slimy mess. If you're in town or have a HOA, my way may not be right for you. By a little high, I am a bit of a bumpkin, so I mean about four inches lol.

Drying it in rows first, I dump it out of the bins and spread it out to about a foot deep, if it rains or the dew is going to fall heavy , I have a couple 2x4s that I lean against the fence, then throw a tarp over, to keep air flow. I will turn the pile if it needs it, just until it is dry, the I just walk it down and weigh the tarp down with bricks. It doesn't take much to compress it where it is in such small pieces. I know I make it sound like a PITA, it really isn't that bad. From maybe a half acre, over a summer, it might be like buying 10-15 bales of hay and running them through your mulcher. The main reason I do it, I know what is on my garden.