Chicken with bad infection on mouth/face (was Vitamin B complex injectable dosage for chicken)

[Kiki]

Isn't gram positive bacteria good? I know gram negative are the harmful bacteria :/

I believe they are all bad.
Only certain medicines will kill gram positive and those medicines usually don't kill gram negative..vice versa...something along those lines.

 

[Kiki]

Staph and Strep are gram positive...not good.
E Coil and Salmonella are gram negative ones...not good either.

 

[Kiki]

"Gram-positive bacteria have greater volume of peptidoglycan in their cell membranes. In other words, gram-positive bacteria have a very thick outer covering. ... Because of their thin but difficult-to-penetrate cell membrane, gram-negative bacteria are often resistant to antibiotics and other antibacterial interventions."

 

[casportpony]

Isn't gram positive bacteria good? I know gram negative are the harmful bacteria :/

A small number of either is considered normal I think, but a large amount needs to be treated. I don't know how to read your lab result, so can't tell if what they found would require treatment. What you should do is have sensitivity test done so you can pick the right drug(s) to treat both.

 

[Kiki]

One more:
Gram-negative bacteria’s cell membrane is thin but difficult to penetrate. Because of this nearly “bulletproof” membrane, they are often resistant to antibiotics and other antibacterial interventions. Examples of Gram-negative bacteria include cholera, gonorrhea, and Escherichia coli (E. coli). The protective covering of these, and other, Gram-negative bacteria make them much more difficult to heal and eradicate.

The cell membrane of Gram-positive bacteria can be as much as 20-fold thicker than the protective covering of Gram-negative bacteria. Some examples of Gram-positive bacteria include Streptococcus, Staphylococcus, and Clostridium botulinum (botulism toxin).
Gram-positive bacteria have a greater volume of peptidoglycan (a polymer of amino acids and sugars that create the cell wall of all bacteria in their cell membranes), which is what makes the thick outer covering. This thick outer covering, or membrane, is capable of absorbing a lot of foreign material.

A good read:
http://info.achs.edu/blog/bid/282924/Medical-Terminology-Gram-Positive-vs-Gram-Negative-Bacteria

 

[Chickadee1982]

whatever it is, i must find out what meds would work. If this is all too expensive or not doable, i will have to cull. Out of all fungal infections, she must get one thats so hard to treat !!!!!

 

[casportpony]

Google gram positive cocci in pairs and chains.

 

[casportpony]

whatever it is, i must find out what meds would work. If this is all too expensive or not doable, i will have to cull. Out of all fungal infections, she must get one thats so hard to treat !!!!!

The quick search I did mentioned surgical debridement and IV antifungals in humans.

 

[obicat]

This may not be relevant but I am B12 deficient and have regular courses of injectable B12. It always without fail triggers some sort of bacterial skin infection. The doctors think its because the B12 effectively speeds up everything and causes normal bacteria to multiply. Its not a big deal to me and resoves quickly, but it just made me wonder when I read this thread...

 

[Kiki]

This may not be relevant but I am B12 deficient and have regular courses of injectable B12. It always without fail triggers some sort of bacterial skin infection. The doctors think its because the B12 effectively speeds up everything and causes normal bacteria to multiply. Its not a big deal to me and resoves quickly, but it just made me wonder when I read this thread...

I am wondering if the b complex shots might be making this chicken worse.