Chickens for 10-20 years or more? Pull up a rockin' chair and lay some wisdom on us!

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That's a lot of fat!

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Don't waste it --

. . . Refer to 70's issues of Mother Earth News and you will find that bird fat is THE favorite for making bread. Sure you can use it for lamp oil and soap, but my favorite is still in breadmaking. The texture of the bread becomes more fine and the flavor is enhanced . . . .

I'd hate for anyone to miss out on any tricks of the trade.
 
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I think one big point in all this paddling. It was not done in anger. It was proof that doing things had consequences. There is a difference in punishment and abuse.
My dads dead and gone so won't no harm come of it -- that-there line between the two was, at times, mighty thin. Not to say we didn't deserve it. We was three country boys and bout bad as they come. Daddy did have a good heart and, believe it or not, the things people remember him by was his quiet-strength and his wise ways. Sure do miss him.
 
Duly noted. I don't know how my bread could get more fine textured or flavorful...not bragging, just stating a fact now.
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RR, I think you are right. Punishment done out of love for your children is quite different than abuse. I used corporal punishment on my own in the same manner. They are great boys and wonderful people and I get many compliments on just how polite and nice they are. I'm pretty satisfied with the methodology.
 
Duly noted. I don't know how my bread could get more fine textured or flavorful...not bragging, just stating a fact now.
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RR, I think you are right. Punishment done out of love for your children is quite different than abuse. I used corporal punishment on my own in the same manner. They are great boys and wonderful people and I get many compliments on just how polite and nice they are. I'm pretty satisfied with the methodology.
Next time just for experimentation purposes..put in a shot of vodka when you make bread. Makes a big difference.
 
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Funny girl! I've never even seen a real bottle of vodka in my life, let alone actually owned one. I guess you could say we don't do much alcohol around here. And, no, all hillbillies do NOT drink moonshine!
 
Teachers these days have to get creative with their punishments. I'm not allowed to paddle, if I pull a kid aside to talk to him one-on-one, I must be sleeping with him, and a phone call home gets me a sob story about how he doesn't respect his mama either and treats her the same way. I've got "the look" down, and that's usually all it takes. But not always. New school punishment option: stick them in the hallway, standing on a special tile on the floor, staring straight into the camera that monitors the hallway with 24/7 video footage. Let them know that if they move, the office will be there to pick them up. Haven't had a bit of trouble with that one yet, even though the camera's been broken all year ;)

I had a kid once who wouldn't shut up in class. Couldn't say three words without him interrupting. I told him if I heard one more word, I was calling his mom right then & there. Next time he opened his mouth, I picked up the phone and dialed her number. Spoke with her for a moment - in front of the rest of my gawking students - and then handed him the phone. Do you know that she came to school and reamed ME for embarrassing her son!?

Needless to say, I plan for this to be my last year of teaching. I'm hanging up my ruler after five whole years on the job. Our public school system bows down to parents, fails to teach students one iota of respect or responsibility (in my school, I'm not allowed to expect a child to have a pencil or paper. I must supply it for him. Do you know how many pencils I go through in a day?! Week... Year... It's pathetic - board of education has no backbone)

Rant over. :)
 
I appreciate all the good teachers and know that I could have never been one....I sympathize immensely with your plight! I don't blame you for getting out, either. It's not the good ol' days and being a teacher right now would be pure hell. We were always taught to respect our elders and especially our teachers back then and the bad kids were in the minority. Now it's just the opposite and a good kid cannot get an education because the teachers have to babysit all the bad ones, the good ones are constantly being bullied...as are the teachers.

Bah! Give me the belt, paddle and switch days any ol' day. Desks were in rows, there was no talking in class, kids were expected to learn and act decently then. Teachers wore ties and dress clothes and were clean shaven, the women wore dresses and were no less fierce in their keeping of order in the classroom.
 
Teachers these days have to get creative with their punishments. I'm not allowed to paddle, if I pull a kid aside to talk to him one-on-one, I must be sleeping with him, and a phone call home gets me a sob story about how he doesn't respect his mama either and treats her the same way. I've got "the look" down, and that's usually all it takes. But not always. New school punishment option: stick them in the hallway, standing on a special tile on the floor, staring straight into the camera that monitors the hallway with 24/7 video footage. Let them know that if they move, the office will be there to pick them up. Haven't had a bit of trouble with that one yet, even though the camera's been broken all year
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I had a kid once who wouldn't shut up in class. Couldn't say three words without him interrupting. I told him if I heard one more word, I was calling his mom right then & there. Next time he opened his mouth, I picked up the phone and dialed her number. Spoke with her for a moment - in front of the rest of my gawking students - and then handed him the phone. Do you know that she came to school and reamed ME for embarrassing her son!?
Needless to say, I plan for this to be my last year of teaching. I'm hanging up my ruler after five whole years on the job. Our public school system bows down to parents, fails to teach students one iota of respect or responsibility (in my school, I'm not allowed to expect a child to have a pencil or paper. I must supply it for him. Do you know how many pencils I go through in a day?! Week... Year... It's pathetic - board of education has no backbone)
Rant over.
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I hear it all the time from my brother, sister-in-laws, got alot of teachers in my family....the worst was my brother, had a student show up drunk to class (high school) and he could not do anything about it except he was allowed to send the kid home. So he sent him home and called the cops and told them there would be a dui on such and such a route....they got him. I always told my kids if I got a call from a teacher, I would believe the teacher first. Also, if your kid gets in trouble with other kids, the admin can not tell you who those kids are, so you have to be a detective to figure out who your kid is not going to be not allowed to hang out with. SO glad they are grown up and I don't have to deal with all the "correctness" and "rights" when all you are trying to do is do the right thing and enforce consiquences. All three kids have one good "stupid" thing under their belt, but it was dealt with and I did not have to beat them either (even though I would have loved to have).Loved the stare of death.
 
If my kids had laughed at me during disciplining, they would likely be spending their lives needing some kind of aid in walking. I don't think they would even THINK the stray thought that punishment was funny. They still would not.

Could be why the dogs won't mind either...
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Everyone knows you don't mean it when you say it.
Maybe you are right. My kids are known for being angels at school and a joy to have in class. Actually Henry got requested by Nina's first grade teacher which I took as a huge compliment. Surprise to her, he is not the dedicated student Nina is but a charming little cracker who thinks the work is way too easy. I love their teachers and have a lot of real sympathy for some of my friends whose kids are always in trouble at school and have to go on red light green light programs. I rarely get mad enough to really follow through. A 10-15 minute time out is the worst I usually do. I yell at them a little or maybe a quick swat to get their attention but nothing that makes them sorry. I had enough of that as a kid and wanted to do things a different way than my parents. My parents had rage and were probably not ready to be married with children at 20. Here I am creeping up on 50 and nothing they do is so serious they need welts over it. It is not very often that they misbehave, but lately, especially with the dogs- I'm not taking any prisoners. I told them tonight that we failed those dogs by letting them do things when they were puppies that make them bad dogs now. I told them I cannot let them be disrespectful as children and grow into bad adults. They were all over that and consistently refused to let Emma jump up while they were eating. I told them if she grows into a bad dog then she will be outside 24/7 just like the others. I also told them if they keep letting her do it I will snap her on the nose with a towel and that It will really hurt her. So at the moment I have their dedication to enforcing Emmas' rules. lol. Back to the scary ideas huh?
My fault for the laughing. Something about having a son I guess. He is such a charming and unusually sensitive?empathetic? reasonable? (dont know the right word) kid. If he gives me a look I cannot be too mad, It doesnt work as well for Nina but Henry can wiggle away with a warning by raising one eyebrow and flashing a humored sparkle. I am certain your boys did the same thing on occasion. I used to think moms who adored their boys were a little crazy. Well, now I understand. You do too, I'd bet money on it. If you stepped on a brick block and fell into the wall and yelled at one of your boys for not putting their things away and he raised an eyebrow with a humored sparkle.....be honest.
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