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First off, where are you reading that? I can't find it anywhere..

Second, even if there is an energy-audit requirement enacted, what makes you think it would be a 'government' energy audit? I'm speculating, but I'd say it would be more in line with the home inspections and termite inspections we see today, which are performed by private businesses.. Small businesses, usually.

Somehow, I just don't see the federal government sending someone out to audit each and every house that goes on the market..

Moreover, you didn't mention anything about a 'grading' system or whether or not the results of any such test could keep the house off the market.. I mean, the law today requires that the current owner of a house either fill out a property disclosure or disclaimer... They can put whatever they want on the disclosure (i.e., "THIS HOUSE IS A DEATH TRAP!") or they can sign a disclaimer and keep their mouth shut -- either way, the house may still be sold.

That said, it makes sense to me that the results of the energy audit -- however good or bad -- would simply be passed along to potential buyers so they may differentiate between homes. If it turns out that your house is an energy hog compared to the competition, it seems to me that the "punishment" would be that it sits on the market until you caulk some windows, put up a little bit of weatherstripping and so forth to make your house competitive with the market...

Maybe it's just me, but I'm all about competition in the market.
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Ya know, the more I think about it, the better the idea sounds.. Right now, short of requesting utility bills and speculating on personal habits, there's really no way to compare apples to apples in terms of energy use when you're looking at two homes. This would be the way.. Plus, as people are doing their 'sale prep,' this would actually give them a reason to look at their energy efficiency instead of saying "oh well, that's the next guy's problem..." and letting things go.

The cherry on top would be that mandatory energy audits would create a lot of work and opportunity for small businesses and entrepreneurs to start little energy audit companies..

Aside from the few bucks it would cost to have it done and the PITA of rectifying the problems (or lowering the sale price to compensate), I don't really see much downside...

I'm actually kinda hoping flopshot's right, and that they are going to require it!
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Kyoto Protocol all over again..
Sheesh. This is actually good and won't drive nearly anything's prices up.
Don't worry.
I thought it was more interesting that the opposing (oil) companies forced these people to have to read the entire thing in court so that they know what they're signing. Then, they just hired a speed reader like from those commercials and he read it in like 3 hours.
 
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First off, where are you reading that? I can't find it anywhere..

Second, even if there is an energy-audit requirement enacted, what makes you think it would be a 'government' energy audit? I'm speculating, but I'd say it would be more in line with the home inspections and termite inspections we see today, which are performed by private businesses.. Small businesses, usually.

Somehow, I just don't see the federal government sending someone out to audit each and every house that goes on the market..

Moreover, you didn't mention anything about a 'grading' system or whether or not the results of any such test could keep the house off the market.. I mean, the law today requires that the current owner of a house either fill out a property disclosure or disclaimer... They can put whatever they want on the disclosure (i.e., "THIS HOUSE IS A DEATH TRAP!") or they can sign a disclaimer and keep their mouth shut -- either way, the house may still be sold.

That said, it makes sense to me that the results of the energy audit -- however good or bad -- would simply be passed along to potential buyers so they may differentiate between homes. If it turns out that your house is an energy hog compared to the competition, it seems to me that the "punishment" would be that it sits on the market until you caulk some windows, put up a little bit of weatherstripping and so forth to make your house competitive with the market...

Maybe it's just me, but I'm all about competition in the market.
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Ya know, the more I think about it, the better the idea sounds.. Right now, short of requesting utility bills and speculating on personal habits, there's really no way to compare apples to apples in terms of energy use when you're looking at two homes. This would be the way.. Plus, as people are doing their 'sale prep,' this would actually give them a reason to look at their energy efficiency instead of saying "oh well, that's the next guy's problem..." and letting things go.

The cherry on top would be that mandatory energy audits would create a lot of work and opportunity for small businesses and entrepreneurs to start little energy audit companies..

Aside from the few bucks it would cost to have it done and the PITA of rectifying the problems (or lowering the sale price to compensate), I don't really see much downside...

I'm actually kinda hoping flopshot's right, and that they are going to require it!
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I guess everyone will have their own opinion about whether or not this bill is a good thing. Personally, from what I've heard and read, I'm very much afraid that our energy costs will go through the roof!! From heating oil to utility bills. And I don't really much care for the sky-high costs right now. Any time the government places requirements on cooperations they will pass the costs on to the consumer. And how the government thinks that the consumers can manage more rising costs (for anything!) is beyond me. Haven't they heard that people are loosing their jobs, their homes, their health insurance and can barely make ends meet now!! Of course THEY never have to wonder how they will pay their next electric bill.
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Politicians are very much dependent on the naivety of "sci ency people".

If you could clearly see the good old fashioned hoodwinking you were about to get you wouldn't be quite the asset to them.
 
I don't care for the rising prices at ALL! but its not all the warming is beneficial, the ice at the artic is melting giving polar bears less grounds to hunt for seals they hunt out on the ice. They have been spotted out in open ocean and some drown because they can't find ice to rest. Some of the reefs are dying out like The Great Barrier because they are so fragile and just a 1 or 2 degree raise could kill miles of it. Plus the water raise from the polar ice caps in years to come could flood the Orleans because they are below sea level and alot of Paris. Some of its natural but its happening a bit quick to quick for the enviroment and animals to adjust. Sorry big Al Gore fan not for the politics but his movie "The Inconvient Truth". I love it and live it, I was shocked with the results they came up with and really hope they are not true but it won't hurt to try to prevent it even if its not true its still better on the enviroment anyhow. Rent it sometime its very interesting.
 
Glenn Beck is on now! He even says it looks like the govt. is trying to break this country. Everything thats gone on in the past 6 mths... An out of control govt. This is a bad subject--get your food animals now....CA going broke with all the movie stars I guess they don't pay taxes. Ann Coulter was on fox news last night says all the politicians tell her about all the taxes that need to be paid and look how many politicians don't pay their taxes.
 
The audit was mentioned on Fox news today. I also found it mentioned here....

http://wenchwisdom.blogspot.com/2009/06/about.html

As for my food animals...I should have 4 more egg laying ducks "online" in a couple of months. They are breeds that will go broody if I let them. Just hope poor Bungie can handle 5 women...LOL
 
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Emzyyy, don't let the first graphic documentary you see be the basis for all of your future opinions.

Always keep in mind that anything being told to you is being told by someone with an agenda (myself included) and that you should actively seek information from all sides of any issue before you make up your mind. And even then you should allow for the possibility that you might have made a mistake in coming to any decision.

There are people out there that will only include the portions of information in their presentations that support their agendas, even though a wealth of information to the contrary might exist.

I'm not saying that that is the case here, just something everyone should keep in mind.
 
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