Clunkers, where did the jobs go.

[WalkingWolf]

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Sodium Silicate is nasty in liquid form, worse when vaporized. It's referred to as liquid glass. However, once the car engine is run, the water portion is going to evaporate off, leaving a very base PH crusty residue in the engine. It's not particularly scary in that form, unless you reconsitute it with water again. At that point, it's main issue as a polutuant is that it has a very base PH, and is still water-soluable. Sort of like an abrasive Draino.

It's generally neutralized with a weak acetic acid solution. Mix the right base and the right acid in the right quantities and you have neutral ph sand.

Ever have a wacky high school science teacher who would awe the students by using hydrocloric acid strong enough to disolve nuts and bolts as mouth wash, after he mixed something baking soda into it? Mix the right base and the right acid, in the right ratios, and you get the same PH as water. Don't drink, ad Do Not Try This at Home!

We worked with less dangerous chemicals in the marine industry accidents and down the road illnesses did and still do happen. If the rings are scored there is blow by and the result is the glass filled vapor the causes permanent lung damage the same as fiberglass. Any doubts hold a piece of paper to an exhaust pipe and see the result vapor. There is also the storage and the handling of the chemical that the we all know in the present times the dealerships can not afford the equipment. This charade was poorly thought out all the way around. Unfortunately will will not see the health results until years down the road when the afflicted discover to late they have been shafted.

 

[WalkingWolf]

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Yeah I know but it is fun to watch them chase their own tail to defend the 'One'. Such a brave display of blind loyalty no matter the costs.

 

[wombat]

Oh, I suspect there will be people with health issues from misuse of this stuff, same as there are people who don't follow instructions and inhale all sorts of other industrial chemicals. The difference is that because this was a large, controversial government program, the lawyers will have a field day with the claims.

Still, this stuff is freakin' SAND. It has a dangerously high Ph, but so does DRAINO.

Wear a respirator, run the engine, drain the solution into hazmat container.

Engine blocks get steamed down by the salvager with acetic acid solution. Done.

The people with problems over this are likely to be the ones who won't take 5 mins to read the instructions, and are dumb enough to notice a smell coming from the engine and feel a need to take a big wiff or 12 to see what it is.

I see contractors cutting cement fiber siding without a dust attachment on their saw and without wearing a respirator, too. Same problem ... enjoy your case of silicosis if you do stuff like that for years.

There's something to be said for reading the instructions.

 

[WalkingWolf]

Do you think the $20 an hour mechanic is going to get this job in the lot?

Heck no it is going to be the minimum wage low level employee? But it is all good any health problems will be absorbed into Obama Care, that is unless it may be terminal and then the costs of care will not justify treatment, other than end of life counseling.

 

[wombat]

Maybe they need to learn how their respirator works in the NBC chamber, the army way. This is your mask. This is you without your mask on breathing CS til your nose drips all the way down to your boots. Mask is good. Any questions?

 

[jjdward]

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Here is what gets me. The libs always talk about diversity and being open-minded and compassionate. And all the world needs is a coke and a smile

Until you don't agree with them. Then they tell you that if you listen to somebody else and agree with them, that there is a place in hell for you because just because you don't want to let the gov't run your life, and you start "Telling lies to try to keep those less fortunate from getting treatment for non emergency but never the less life threatening illness. Things like cancer."

 

[WalkingWolf]

I see a lock down in the future, maybe I'm physic. It's a shame because these discussions are vital to our health as a nation, it is just a shame they cannot be accomplished without somebody insulting someone personally or their family. Maybe if they actually owned even one chicken they might not be so hostile, they do have a calming effect.

 

[PattiXmas]

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My my, are we a bit condescending. All bow to the mighty Willy Wonka. Guess what life isn't fair and we are living in AMERICA.

 

[deerman]

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It did work for FDR. Quit listening to the idiots that keep trying to rewrite history. The programs that FDR instituted reversed the depression. Hitler and Japan brought us the rest of the way out.

One thing and only that got the world out of the depression.

WW11, lots of jobs making weapons!!!!!!!

My father when thru all of that, FDR FAILED. Hitler put Germans to work making weapons, Japan forced the USA to put people to work making weapons.


I am not of the blue party or red party, but pure red, white,and blue.

 

[beak]

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I take it you are in the "I got mine sucks to be you" group. Yes it is America. Land of the free, Greedy and selfish. Of course that applies mostly to the USA. Sometimes in addition to being free,greedy and selfish people forget there are other countries on this continent.

Which Willy Wonka do you like best? Gene Wilder or Johnny Depp.