cocci again and this time I mean buisness! need non-organic advise

[AHappychick]

the vet tech gave me a med that the vet left for me, the kid could not remember what it was so I did not want to use it. I ran in late this evening with stool samples in hopes of meds faster than priority mail could bring the Amprol fearing monday might be too late and also reading that sometimes reoccurrences happen. Anyway the vet just called its Albon and I looked that up and that is sulmethadioxine so I am going to go ahead with treatment he said it should work out fine with what I have been doing. This seems like strong stuff but I think that it is now worth the risk. with the vet bills I will be lucky to break even now with the sale of these chicks in April.

I actually read that mixing a bit of older chooks litter with the new chicks litter was a good way to introduce them which in a few cases I have done, I cant remember though if I did it with these originally or not....

 

[tiki244]

yes that drug will knock it out quick which is a good thing. Make sure you follow the whole regime. I think an old hens poop that has the immunities already in her poop would be good. I dont know if you want to risk it. Especially now. I did have a batch that got cocci this year and after I treated them I added, once, a hens poop to their water. I guess more research needs to be done on this by me. That oregano thing sounds very interesting. A long read though. I might try that a little at a time. I dont know if I am going to try it on my $10 chicks though. Probably the experimental chicks.

Sorry about the money loss. Vets are expensive. Hopefully next time around you will be more seasoned and get a better results. Seems I am always learning new stuff on here. BYC is great to share information and get a bunch of heads together to help solve a problem.

 

[Jenski]

Kung Foo, thanks for posting that link. It actually seems to offer the first scientific evidence I have seen on this substance. I will have some light reading tonight!

AHappychick, please continue to keep us posted.

 

[Kung Foo Chicken]

Jenski I know. My grandmother told me about it when I was a kid. She called it chicks with bloody "curse word" disease. I used her method for a long time. She must have done something right because she never had sick chickens.

 

[jjparke]

I feed medicated started mash from day 1. Never had any cases of cocci. Good luck

 

[AHappychick]

I lost an EE today tried everything to keep it going but I guess the cocci was just too strong. I am starting to wonder if they are all getting it from my cat that lives in the same room. Anyway the treatments are continuing and am hopeful that maybe the others will pull through. more than half seem much better

The meds the vet gave just would not not dissolve well even after crushing and putting in hot water and lots of stirring but I was able to get Sulfadimethoxine that dissolves better that is the same drug and am giving 1/8 a teaspoon per gallon of water.

I wanted to wait for the other stuff that is not so toxic from First state but felt as though if I waited till it arrived on Monday I would have a lot more dead chicks. Besides people seem 50/50 on their opinion as to which works better anyhow.

 

[MoodyChicken]

I've had the best success with Dimethox... good choice. Sorry for your loss though.

 

[silkiechicken]

If what they have really is cocci, they can't get it from the cat directly since it is species specific. But, if the cat had some soil on her paws, and it got in the brooder, there could be a chance.

By the way, did you take a fecal sample to any vet, just the poo, for a fecal float test to check for the type of cocci they have to make sure it is cocci and not something else? Any vet can do it.

 

[needmorechickens!]

I'm praying for your chicks to make it.
Hang in there, sounds like you're doing a great job so far!
~Rebecca

 

[PurpleChicken]

Quote:
Silkie is right. Have a fecal done on monday.

I watched 7, 5 to 6 week old silkies drop dead one after the other of
Cocci. It wasn't fun. Most of my birds will make bloody poo after I bring
them from the brooder inside the house to the brooder in the barn.
Other than the silkies I've lost very few to it. It's all about concentrations.

(crossing fingers for you and your chickies)