Cocci: Corid (amprolium) + Sulfamethoxazole / Trimethoprim

[Wyorp Rock]

whole crop with Corid in the drinking water since Saturday morning....lethargy and loss of appetite

Can you explain "whole crop with Corid in the drinking water"?

I would re-consult the vet since she seems to be worsening.
Also check her crop to make sure it's emptying overnight.

 

[EggSighted4Life]

So our sick hen has been on the sulfatrim since Friday night and the whole crop with Corid in the drinking water since Saturday morning.

The sick hen is now exhibiting some signs of lethargy and loss of appetite. Side effects of the sulfatrim seem to include both of those things, so I'm hoping it is that and not a regression in the cocci.

Problem is the sulfatrim dose is for 14 days. Hard to know if it is helping or harming her at this point. Plan is to keep her on it but monitor closely.

Thoughts?

14 days is a long time. I know that not finishing antibiotics is part of the reason for resistance building.

But I agree if she seems to be worsening... I would either stop treatment or re consult the vet with at least a phone call.

 

[menotti]

Whoops. Wrote "whole crop" but meant "whole flock".

Anyway, yesterday evening she showed some good signs. Scrambled an egg and let her have first dibs. She quite enjoyed it with a lot of energy

Today her mood is a bit more peppy. She also went after some mealworms, which she was unusually skeptical about the day before.

With regards to finishing/not finishing antibiotics - seems to be a mixed bag as to whether you're supposed to do this. I think we will complete the course.

Thanks everyone for the help so far. Will keep the thread updated.

 

[menotti]

So was able to take a look at some more poop today. Still watery, slightly greenish. I'm wondering if she's eating the feed like she should. But her appetite seems normal otherwise, including for treats.

Also started a daily weighing routine. She's definitely still underweight @ 1.3 kilos compared to my other buff oprington @ 2.3 kilos (she could also stand to gain a bit).

Any recommendations to help her get back to a healthy weight?

 

[casportpony]

Any recommendations to help her get back to a healthy weight?

Try some turkey starter?

 

[EggSighted4Life]

Try some turkey starter?

Yes, I sometimes use turkey starter for chicks. And many broiler feeds meant to grow them out fast are higher in protein as well. Do you have any idea if the different feeds include a calorie content on the label? Reason I ask is.. if feeds have more protein, I wonder what they are sacrificing in order to get it.

I guess if I wanted to fatten a bird up, I might use the potato chips of the chicken world, scratch (thinking in human terms). However, I understand this case is not about just fattening up.. but rather helping to gain some weight while increasing health, which of course will happen best with the formulated rations.

 

[chicknmania]

[I'll be interested to see if the Sulfatrim works. Just have been prescribed that for our flock, and our one very sick pullet.

 

[EggSighted4Life]

[I'll be interested to see if the Sulfatrim works. Just have been prescribed that for our flock, and our one very sick pullet.

I prefer Corid since it's over the counter and works every time for me so far. Though I will admit that has been only once or twice in 8 years.

The sulfatrim works though, from what I have gathered trough other threads.

Did your vet verify with a float test before prescribing? Mind sharing how much your visit, tests, and meds costed you?

 

[chicknmania]

I'll have to look at the bill because they run a tab for me. Originally, no visit was needed, he just did the fecal, and if I remember right, those are about $18.00, which includes float and microscopic exam. I took our one very sick pullet to the vet yesterday (she had a few worms and a very heavy cocci burden) because she had the typical inflammatory reaction after deworming, from the worm die-off, and probably some Cocci die off too. I thought she was dying, and she'd been doing better up til then. The vet gave her a tiny steroid injection and a shot of antibiotic, and said she'd be a lot better by today. She was worlds better a couple of hours later! THAT visit, including the injections, cost me $35.00. Money well spent. Our vet is very reasonable, he's just a country vet, more interested in animal welfare than his own. We've been taking our animals to him for 19 years, so he might be giving us a bit of a break, I don't know.

He recommended the Sulfatrim because, unlike previous years, we have had a severe problem with Cocci this year, and have lost three or four other young pullets because of it.
It's weird because this type of coccidiosis does not have any symptoms except lethargy, and a very small amount of weight loss, . Droppings are normal. It was hard to figure out what was going on. We've treated alternately with Corid and Sulfadimethoxine three times since last fall, and it worked, but a week later the problem would be back. That's why he thought it was time to try something a little different. The main problem with the Sulfatrim that I see is that it is very bitter, I can tell they are tasting it. I've been mixing it with unsweetened applesauce, but this morning I added a little sweetened juice and a couple of drops of Karo syrup, too.

 

[casportpony]

For those of you that keep getting coccidiosis, I would suggest that you invest in some Baycox. It's truly an amazing drug and should treat coccidiosis in 2-3 days.