Cochin breeding, genetics, and showing

[shannybell]

What color chicks would I get from two LF Cochin partridge hens crossed with a black cochin roo?

 

[jarvis]

Sorry been gone a while. The chicks were deffinatley silver penciled

 

[shannybell]

Sorry been gone a while. The chicks were deffinatley silver penciled

Silver penciled is what you get 100% of the time from crossing partridge hens with a black roo? I just want to make sure I understand you correctly I just looked that color up and they are really pretty. Thanks for your input!

 

[AndyCap]

Silver penciled is what you get 100% of the time from crossing partridge hens with a black roo? I just want to make sure I understand you correctly I just looked that color up and they are really pretty. Thanks for your input!

No, you will not get silver pencilled, black is generally gold based ,not silver, you will get mixtures, it will be impossible to predict what comes out of that breeding without knowing what genes the black bird is hiding.

You will get black birds with gold leakage, similar to this perhaps, but black does hide a lot of genes.

 

[mylittlehippie]

What combinations are most likely with a black hen and a mottled roo? Thanks!

 

[mylittlehippie]

What color/type would you guys describe this hen as. Her feathers are dark black but she has the gold patterning in the front. I have been told that she is possibly a red brown but again her feathers are jet black and shimmer green. Is she just a unique color and does not fit into any set standard? Thanks so much!!

 

[AndyCap]

What color/type would you guys describe this hen as. Her feathers are dark black but she has the gold patterning in the front. I have been told that she is possibly a red brown but again her feathers are jet black and shimmer green. Is she just a unique color and does not fit into any set standard? Thanks so much!!

I would say she is black with gold leakage. i have some project birds that have similar leakage and it can be used to produce a nice colour effect. If you have a look at the picture i posted ealier you can see this in the bird on the left starting to come in.


to answer your earlier question, crossing black with mottled with give you black birds split for the mottled gene. If you cross the offspring back together then you will get mottled and black. That is assuming those are the only genes at play, as i mentioned before, black does tend to hide quite a few surprises

 

[mylittlehippie]

Thank you Andy Cap! It looks like your hen on the left is golden laced almost from the top at least. Do you have golden laced? Maybe it would be better to breed her to a golden laced roo which seems closer to her color pattern.

 

[AndyCap]

The bird on the left is a rooster as it happens

he came out a breeding program to improve type in my partridge line. Turned out very handsome as i recall. The light gold there was a result of a gene i was trying to breed out (Dilute), which makes our birds here a lot lighter then those in Europe or the USA.

 

[mylittlehippie]

haha my bad! With his head down it was hard to tell. Thanks for the info! I am just getting started in the breeding and possibly showing side and I am very interested to learn as much as possible.