Cochin Thread!!!

[hemet dennis]

So would this be a birchen colored Cochin ? He's about 10 weeks old.

 

[Black Cochin Bantams]

In my talks with a well known and respected breeder of Mottleds I have learned this. Mottleds will let you "park a pattern" for a generation to bring in type and not totally lose the pattern. You can clean up the pattern in just 2 more generations. That is how he developed the Partridge line that I have.

 

[joanie_maine]

I gave one of my black pullets a bath this morning. She cleans up pretty good, I think.

 

[Chickengirl47]

Aww! She's adorable!

 

[mama2my4]

I gave one of my black (split to barred) pullets a bath this morning. She cleans up pretty good, I think.

I agree!!

 

[Sahwithchicks]

Yay! Just got back from a chicken show in lake city FL, and added a pair of columbian banties from Mr. Horstman to my cochin flock

Now, if I where to breed the columbian roo over a black hen... What would happen? Would I get splits? Or would the cockerel offspring have poor columbian color?

 

[Sahwithchicks]

Speaking of baths... The hen above is in desperate need I will give her a day to settle in to her isolation pen, but then she's getting one!

 

[Black Cochin Bantams]

Yay! Just got back from a chicken show in lake city FL, and added a pair of columbian banties from Mr. Horstman to my cochin flock

Now, if I where to breed the columbian roo over a black hen... What would happen? Would I get splits? Or would the cockerel offspring have poor columbian color?

I have done it. Pictures below. In my 3rd year trying to bring Black type back to Columbians. The Black ones in the 1st 2 pics are this years Columbian hen x Black Cock results. The 3rd picture is the 1st one I kept. They will all be poorly marked Birchens. The 1st year I hatched 8 and kept 1. She looks Birchen but does not breed true. I do not have a picture of the Sept hatch of a Columbian male x Birchen hen in 3rd picture. This years f2 result is a typey chick that looks sort of Columbian but overmarked with extreme shafting. When I started this I figured if it works it is a 5 year project. Hope this answered your question. Will you be at the Central Florida Poultry Breeders show next month? Happily talk about the results. I will be there with a few Columbians, Partridge, Blacks,? Buff Columbian,? Silver Penciled to show. The bottom picture is at the Cochin International Western National 2011 where she was BOV from 11 Birchens.

Craig

 

[Sahwithchicks]

Is that the show in Inverness? If so, I will be there. Most likely. My grandparents live in Inverness, its a good excuse to see them, and to get them to watch the kids while I get to look at chickens

Your results where from a columbian hen with black cock. I have columbian cock with black hens. My experience with my birchen roo is I get poorly marked birchen cockerels and black hens when he is over a black hen. I figured I would get the same type results (only columbian) with a col. Roo over black hen. I do know that when you use a birchen hen under a black roo (just an example- I want to start a blue barred LF cochin project, and talked to some friends on how to accomplish this. Would use blue cock over barred hens, f1 would have poor barring, but have blues, then breed f1blue cockerels to mother barreds, and f1 blue pullets to father cock to improve typing and keep on... Does that sound about right?) I would get all poorly marked birchens, but to reverse hen and roo, for all intensive purposes, gives you "sex link" birchen cockerels.
This being said, if I where to get a black roo, and put him over the columbian, could I use the poorly marked offspring pullet under my birchen to improve his offsprings body typing, since I don't have birchen hens?

I am slowly, and I mean, slowly, trying to understand this genetic stuff. When it comes to talking about alleles and stuff I get completely lost, so I have to go by basic coloring "rules"

 

[Sahwithchicks]

In this though, we are talking about using solid color Roos over patterned hens to achieve f1 with all poor coloring typing, but all have it.

Patterned roo over solid hen equals female offspring to be solid and male offspring to have poor typing? Would those F1 hens be splits then? Bred back to a good patterned roo, would they produce decent patterned offspring?