Cochin Thread!!!

[ki4got]

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thanks... I always glazed over with history, social sciences, & stuff like that, but the math and sciences were fun. genetics, to me, is like jigsaw puzzles I had to sort out and put back together.

with most species I've worked with, the mutations are somewhat 1-layered... poultry genetics has turned into a 3d puzzle with so many layers of mutations, some tying in with others, but many a separate level to themselves. i'm still learning, and thinking of alternative ways of doing things, so some of the proven ways things come about may change slightly for me, to see if I can find a better way of doing it...

the mille fleur project is one of those things i'm still researching (on paper and in the breeding pen) to see if I can find a way to stabilize the variety somewhat. but I think we're going about that mutation wrong by using partridge and Columbian... haven't figured it out 100% but that could explain why the pattern isn't solidifying more easily. - I'm also thinking it's tied in with which e-locus it's based on.

 

[moomoodiddy]

thanks... I always glazed over with history, social sciences, & stuff like that, but the math and sciences were fun. genetics, to me, is like jigsaw puzzles I had to sort out and put back together.

with most species I've worked with, the mutations are somewhat 1-layered... poultry genetics has turned into a 3d puzzle with so many layers of mutations, some tying in with others, but many a separate level to themselves. i'm still learning, and thinking of alternative ways of doing things, so some of the proven ways things come about may change slightly for me, to see if I can find a better way of doing it...

the mille fleur project is one of those things i'm still researching (on paper and in the breeding pen) to see if I can find a way to stabilize the variety somewhat. but I think we're going about that mutation wrong by using partridge and Columbian... haven't figured it out 100% but that could explain why the pattern isn't solidifying more easily. - I'm also thinking it's tied in with which e-locus it's based on.

this is why i am glad I am in school I learn so much in my science classes that I put towards my birds... now history is a different story

 

[ShysCreations]

the mille fleur project is one of those things i'm still researching (on paper and in the breeding pen) to see if I can find a way to stabilize the variety somewhat. but I think we're going about that mutation wrong by using partridge and Columbian...  haven't figured it out 100% but that could explain why the pattern isn't solidifying more easily. - I'm also thinking it's tied in with which e-locus it's based on.

Excellent explanation! If i follow you, melanizing would help bring black into the breast?

 

[Jharper]

Okay, my black hen and I have a show coming up the 18th of October and I was wondering if she would be full by then. She has an inch and a half of more feather growth left on her tail feathers. Do you think if I feed her Mana Pro game bird/show bird feed for the next month she'll have them fully out?

 

[Black Cochin Bantams]

Okay, my black hen and I have a show coming up the 18th of October and I was wondering if she would be full by then. She has an inch and a half of more feather growth left on her tail feathers. Do you think if I feed her Mana Pro game bird/show bird feed for the next month she'll have them fully out?

Probably won't hurt her so worth a try. She will probably be close in 4 weeks

 

[Jharper]

Probably won't hurt her so worth a try. She will probably be close in 4 weeks

Okay, because when I was feeding her the mana pro feed her feathers started to grow back really quick after the attack.

 

[ki4got]

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I think so... i think what we need is melanizing, pattern and mottling, on birchen base... the Columbian doesn't seem to give us anything we need, while the pattern gene puts black on each feather and melanizing intensifies that.

 

[lilcrow]

I think so... i think what we need is melanizing, pattern and mottling, on birchen base... the Columbian doesn't seem to give us anything we need, while the pattern gene puts black on each feather and melanizing intensifies that.

A friend of mine explained the MF pattern and I know that Mottled was one of the choices, and then I believe Partridge. I pretty sure you're correct in surmising that Columbian is NOT.

 

[ki4got]

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actually I think it's the pattern gene.. yes partridge has the pattern gene, but also mahogany, which I don't think you really want unless you're working on something like a jubilee orp (same pattern plus mahogany)

 

[Jharper]

This is one of her sisters. How would you think she would do in a 4-H show? They are practically identical, but her foot feathering is really long. Her tail is also just a bit fluffier.