Cochin Thread!!!

[JacinLarkwell]

You cpuld still probably breed her. I mean i got a birchin marked chick that had 1/4 Cochin and birchin no where in the background

 

[Painted Calls]

Thank you both!! That’s what I figured but wanted to be sure. I figured if she was gonna have the markings, they would have shown up by now. She does have good feathers on her feet though. Some of them are questionable on that too haha

I’m guessing I probably shouldn’t breed her? Or maybe I could because she’s got good foot feathering? I wouldn’t breed to sell or show anything, just for fun, but I figured if she doesn’t have the pattern it probably wouldn’t be a good idea but maybe the cockerel would pass it on??

And just out of curiosity, would I still call her a Birchen because that’s what she’s supposed to be or would I just call her black??? You know, I did actually get one extra chick in my order and I thought it was another birchen Cochin but maybe they threw in a black? I’m just realizing this now. Maybe she is the extra chick and isn’t supposed to be birchen at all... whoops

And yeah I never thought I wanted them cause of the broodiness but they are great. and I want the broodiness now

Lord have mercy don't ask for the broodiness bahahaha. It will come I promise. My place looks like a puppy mill with all the dog crates to break broodies.

 

[ShrekDawg]

You cpuld still probably breed her. I mean i got a birchin marked chick that had 1/4 Cochin and birchin no where in the background

Thanks!! That’s good to know! I bet your chick is adorable!!!

 

[ShrekDawg]

Lord have mercy don't ask for the broodiness bahahaha. It will come I promise. My place looks like a puppy mill with all the dog crates to break broodies.

OMG that’s hilarious!!! Hahaha

 

[Sleek28]

Does anyone know what breed of chicken Red Frizzles are bred with? I️ bought a Red Frizzle chick in May and I️ have ended up with a straight feathered Rooster. I️ am very curious as to what he will end up looking like.

I️ will take another picture from above, he has very pretty markings.

Thanks
DC

 

[Painted Calls]

Does anyone know what breed of chicken Red Frizzles are bred with? I️ bought a Red Frizzle chick in May and I️ have ended up with a straight feathered Rooster. I️ am very curious as to what he will end up looking like.

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I️ will take another picture from above, he has very pretty markings.

Thanks
DC

Frizzle is a gene. A lot of bantam cochins are sold as "Frizzles". It looks like you were sold a smooth Cochin that was labeled as frizzled. Can you post a picture of his feet?

 

[Sleek28]

Frizzle is a gene. A lot of bantam cochins are sold as "Frizzles". It looks like you were sold a smooth Cochin that was labeled as frizzled. Can you post a picture of his feet?

Here you go:

 

[renk777]

Thank you both!! That’s what I figured but wanted to be sure. I figured if she was gonna have the markings, they would have shown up by now. She does have good feathers on her feet though. Some of them are questionable on that too haha

I’m guessing I probably shouldn’t breed her? Or maybe I could because she’s got good foot feathering? I wouldn’t breed to sell or show anything, just for fun, but I figured if she doesn’t have the pattern it probably wouldn’t be a good idea but maybe the cockerel would pass it on??

And just out of curiosity, would I still call her a Birchen because that’s what she’s supposed to be or would I just call her black??? You know, I did actually get one extra chick in my order and I thought it was another birchen Cochin but maybe they threw in a black? I’m just realizing this now. Maybe she is the extra chick and isn’t supposed to be birchen at all... whoops

And yeah I never thought I wanted them cause of the broodiness but they are great. and I want the broodiness now

Consider yourself lucky! Often, packing peanuts and extra surprise breed chicks are cockerels. You are blessed to have received a little pullet ❤

I think that her solid coloration will compliment your birchens and vise versa. Light areas look brighter when juxtaposed to something dark. Pattern looks better when complimented by a solid. I was a little bummed that all three of my dark bantam bin grabs were 'just' black. But now that 2 are obviously not all black, I'm so glad one is entirely black! Your little favorite will now stand out because of her uniqueness

As for what to call her, I'd just go with black. If she did have birchen genetics, I still wouldn't call her Birchen. From what I can gather, chicken identification is descriptive and largely based on appearance and differs from how we identify horses or dogs, etc. There was a great discussion on BYC somewhere regarding this and the one commenter seemed pretty knowledgable and made a good argument but no clue where/who that was. Since Overo Mare has a horse name on a chicken forum, maybe I'm lucky and it was her and she can explain! My understanding was that you could show a chicken that 100% conforms to a certain breed standard ...as that breed...even if they have 0% of that breed in them. Conversely, you could have a bird that is genetically 100% of a breed and not show or even call it what is is if it doesn't conform to the standard. Chances of either extreme happening are pretty slim..but there's a huge gray area in between. So for me, if it is genetically a birchen and looks like a birchen, I'd call it Birchen. But if I don't know, I'd just refer to it as my black Cochin (as opposed to Black Cochin).

As for breeding, some of my favorite birds are random barnyard mixes that are obvious hybrids between breeds that I'm not selling. But I probably wouldn't cross color varieties within a breed...as I'd fear I'd muddy up the genetics that make each variation look so cool. Unless of course, I had the brain span to delve into breeding another color variety. But black-to-birchen I fear would just result in more birchen with less distinct pattern :/

 

[renk777]

Just let me know once you've updated your thread. You can post here or message me.

Done! Posted under original thread. I'll grab some popcorn and wait!

 

[JacinLarkwell]

Does anyone know what breed of chicken Red Frizzles are bred with? I️ bought a Red Frizzle chick in May and I️ have ended up with a straight feathered Rooster. I️ am very curious as to what he will end up looking like.

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I️ will take another picture from above, he has very pretty markings.

Thanks
DC

You have to breed frizzles to straight feathered birds, so the chicks will be like 50 50