Cochin Thread!!!

[ki4got]

it won't let me attach a pic? got some new birds and wanted to share some pics. am i doing something wrong?

i think you have to have something like 20 posts to be able to attach pics

and on beakman and byron, i like them both. LOL yeah i'm not much help. what color is byron? buff columbian? wow. all the bc's i've seen in the past were just kinda 'blah' and not much to write home about, or their black markings were so sporradic they looked more mottled or something... so i've avoided that color for a while. maybe i need to go back and take a look at them again.

 

[JosieChick]

I am very new at this but what I see is pretty good shape on Beakman. I like his short back and I bet that when he is not "standing up" for the camera he is probably pretty level in his head and tail height. He looks like he has a nice broad chest. His wing carriage doesn't look any lower than my two black cochin boys I just got. Its hard to tell from a picture but his eye color looks pretty good and I personally like his overall facial expression. I really like my cochins to "look" inquisitive. I think it lends itself as a good predictor of overall temperment. I have a terrible time taking flattering photos of my birds so these are pretty good pictures. It is so hard to capture a bird in a good moment.

Byron-handsome boy but looks "long" in his back in these pics? Looks like he has some nice foot feathering! It is hard to tell if it is the sunlight or if his eye color is lighter than Beakman but still looks brown/bay in color without any grey or green. Byron has a nice comb but I like Beakman's overall expression better personally.

If I had to guess I bet Beakman is the personable boy and Byron is busy running up and down the fence trying to find something to get into trouble with.

Just my 2 cents, I am very new at this and if I have gotten anything wrong please let me know. I like to look over a bird and think about what the breed standard calls for and how that bird fits that "mold." I also think that perfect birds are hard to come by and sometimes you have to start out with lesser birds and hatch a lot/ cull hard and you can improve over time. I have seen folks start out with seramas that were terrible pet quality birds and over time and with lots of work and culling produce a really nice breeding quality bird. It can be done. It is also really important to me that I have only nice birds around. My cockerels are super sweet boys who will find treats for me!! They are love bugs and I don't tolerate rotten attitudes in my boys or boys who are rough on the girls. I have one tarzan in the large fowl pen right now who is gonna get tossed into the butcher pen as soon as it is finished.

 

[Reyvaughn]

Yeah, Byron isn't normally so upright either. He was running the fence. He's an arse - a nasty arse. He puts himself between me and his one girl and herds her away from me. He'll attack my hand if I am not careful. Usually an axe handle goes in the condo before my hand when I water, feed and collect Bridgette's egg. I decided plucking his bum was good justice. Everyone else got trimmed with the scissors. -evil grin and snicker- Beakman and his hatchmate, Lester, both have the same shape. I like Beakman over Lester, though. Beakman collects goodies for me, too.

Byron is buff columbian x mottled. He's more buff columbian, though. Yes, his feet are nice and full. I have a pic of them... I'll post it below. The BC girl I have him paired with has no black in her hackles, but is a darker buff like him. I have 2 pullets I am going to put in with him once they grow out some more and I see if they are worth keeping. They are only about 20 weeks right now. They are the lighter tan base but have black hackles. I am using him to start my own BC flock. He has the foot feathering, fluff and size I want in my MFs.



This one is a more natural stance for Byron. It's an old one - and it shows Lester!

 

[Judy]

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[JosieChick]

This last pic of Byron is much more flattering! You are a brave lady, I don't think I could deal with a roo who needed an ax handle to keep him at bay!!

I had a not nice roo who I got rid of and accidentally hatched out a chick from him before I got rid of him that is now 8 weeks old and he is a little jerk. Attacks my hand when I clean their coop and bluffs at my legs. There is not loving it out of this one and he is going into the grow out pen for future soup stock. I can't keep all of them and find it is hard to sale a nice boy without a hen included in the deal in my area.

Are Lester and Beakman related?

 

[Reyvaughn]

I keep telling him that if I didn't need his genes, he'd already be in my freezer. Once you catch him, he's calm and lets you spread his wings, flip him around and do whatever you want to him. It's just the ordeal of catching him.

I am assuming Beakman and Lester are related. They came from the same breeder, same hatch. Lester has a weirder comb. That's the only way I can tell the difference. Beakman used to peck my hand when I fed and watered him, too. A couple 'pecks' on his head settled him down. Byron has been held down, chased, 'pecked', carried around.. I've done it all. Now, I let him alone unless I need to deal with him. Just fertilize my eggs and we will be good, lol!

 

[wildwoodcochins]

Yeah, Byron isn't normally so upright either. He was running the fence. He's an arse - a nasty arse. He puts himself between me and his one girl and herds her away from me. He'll attack my hand if I am not careful. Usually an axe handle goes in the condo before my hand when I water, feed and collect Bridgette's egg. I decided plucking his bum was good justice. Everyone else got trimmed with the scissors. -evil grin and snicker- Beakman and his hatchmate, Lester, both have the same shape. I like Beakman over Lester, though. Beakman collects goodies for me, too.

Byron is buff columbian x mottled. He's more buff columbian, though. Yes, his feet are nice and full. I have a pic of them... I'll post it below. The BC girl I have him paired with has no black in her hackles, but is a darker buff like him. I have 2 pullets I am going to put in with him once they grow out some more and I see if they are worth keeping. They are only about 20 weeks right now. They are the lighter tan base but have black hackles. I am using him to start my own BC flock. He has the foot feathering, fluff and size I want in my MFs.



This one is a more natural stance for Byron. It's an old one - and it shows Lester!

This last picture of Byron is much better, I think he's very pretty ~

 

[Black Cochin Bantams]

Now... Lay it on me... I am asking, because I am sure Beakman is not show quality, but maybe he's okay enough to add some type to my MFs that are lacking. Maybe I should post in the MF forum instead... What do you think of Beakman? And heck, what about Byron, too?

I know they are supposed to be a ball, both boys are alerted so they are 'long in the leg' as I like to call it. Other than that? Hows his wing carriage? His tail (a little to small and not full enough?), I know his comb is short a point or 2...




He was not cooperating for pictures. He's also 9 months old now.

Next, Byron. He's my nicest boy... If that says anything. None of my birds have that round ball thing going on. -sigh-

He wouldn't quit running back and forth...

Thanks in advance. I'm not expecting 'Crossroad Champions', here. Lay it on me.

Really like the Buff Columbian! I love his color and pattern. Wing carried higher than the mottled but both are OK. How is his wing pattern?

I like the width on the Mottled. Too much white but he is so young that it doesn't mean much at this age.

 

[wildwoodcochins]

Is anyone planning on going to the Gateway Show next month in Bloominton, IN?

 

[Reyvaughn]

Really like the Buff Columbian! I love his color and pattern. Wing carried higher than the mottled but both are OK. How is his wing pattern?


I like the width on the Mottled. Too much white but he is so young that it doesn't mean much at this age.

Byron has white on his wing tips from being a mottled cross. Other than the tips, the primaries are black. See. now I had no idea the wings had a pattern to be looked at. I'll get pics of them as well. Just so I can learn something. I was going to take a pic of his wings while I had them fanned out, but mentally I thought that was going to far and maybe a little weird/obsessive, LOL! So, Byron has a high wing carriage? Beakman's is okay? And Beakman's tail is okay? I thought it may be a bit to narrow compared to the rest of his body.


@Wildwood - Indiana's a little farm for me. I am going to try going to the Uniontown, PA show next month. I want to experience showing and see if anyone has any Cochins they will let go (doubtful, but I'll try).

Thank you!