Cochin Thread!!!

[moomoodiddy]

So I moved her. After finding multiple eggs that weren't marked under her today, and three hens in the nesting box with her enabling her egg stealing problem, I moved her to the barn. She was a bit confused at first, but ate and drank and pooed and went back to the eggs. I accidentally broke one of the eggs she was sitting on this morning, so there are twelve now. But it was developing, the blastoderm/ target, was larger than a fresh egg. I felt badly, but she has twelve more to work with and there are three eggs in the silkie coop this morning, plus the four layed by the big girls, so I'm not short on fertile eggs at all. lol I plan on letting her out for 15 minutes a day with the flock, so she can keep her place in the pecking order.

She's in there, just hard to see.

just make sure the chicks are able to get in and out of that nesting box

 

[kabhyper1]

just make sure the chicks are able to get in and out of that nesting box

I'll turn it sideways when it comes time to hatch. I didn't do a lot with it today. She was already nervous being moved out of the coop.

 

[Jharper]

Ok, so here is my blue hatchery boy. How much do y'all think I should charge if I decide to sell him, because I am getting a breeder/SQ cockerel. My blue boy is 6 months old and still has a juvenile cluck and he has a a lot of feathers still coming in on his legs, tail, neck, feet, and back. How much do ya think I should charge?

 

[ki4got]

I sell all roosters, unless it's show quality, for $5 each or best offer. sometimes i'll just give them away to keep from having to feed them anymore. for a hatchery roo, I wouldn't expect to get more than that...

 

[Black Cochin Bantams]

Me either! So help me understand this. What exactly is Splash classified as then? Is it a group of its own but not by color or what?

Splash is a plumage pattern. There is a description of it in the Bantam Standard. Splash is generally made as a result of breeding BBS birds. All Splash birds regardless of breed are measured against that plumage pattern description. Splash is not yet an accepted variety in Cochins but there is a group working to make that happen. All Splash can be shown and will be judged using the description of the breed and the plumage pattern description as the benchmarks they are judged by. Until acceptance as a variety the best a Splash can get in a show is BV- Best of Variety not accepted so can not compete for BB- Best of Breed or higher. Some shows will pick AOV - any other variety winner but again can not compete farther than that.
Craig

 

[Scifisarah]

I just posted this link on the mottled cochin thread. This article is very helpful understanding some of the color genetics such as Blue/Black/Splash breeding: https://www.backyardchickens.com/a/punnett-squares If you aren't familiar with genetics and Punnett squares, the birds on the outside are the parents, and the birds on the inside are the offspring So if there are four offspring on the chart and two of them are a certain color, that means 50% of your eggs.

 

[ChickenCrazy123]

All this genetics talk has me curious what would you get from a lemon blue hen and black roosters.

 

[Missyktsm]

Thanks for posting that link. I've been reading a lot of genetic info and that's the first time I've seen Punnett squares. VERY helpful to a visual learner like me.

 

[heatherscooby77]

Splash is a plumage pattern. There is a description of it in the Bantam Standard. Splash is generally made as a result of breeding BBS birds. All Splash birds regardless of breed are measured against that plumage pattern description. Splash is not yet an accepted variety in Cochins but there is a group working to make that happen. All Splash can be shown and will be judged using the description of the breed and the plumage pattern description as the benchmarks they are judged by. Until acceptance as a variety the best a Splash can get in a show is BV- Best of Variety not accepted so can not compete for BB- Best of Breed or higher. Some shows will pick AOV - any other variety winner but again can not compete farther than that.
Craig

Please forgive me, I read so many things and I can get confused. I thought splash is a color variety. For example a splash wheaten, theoretically the bird is splash all over, with the wheaten pattern over it. I thought that is why you can't call a splash, a blue splash. Because they are both there own varieties. Otherwise you would be calling it a blue splash wheaten?!? I also realize that a variety can also be because of a pattern. I dunno, maybe I am being to technical. I have been told that a time or two!!! I just want to understand

 

[ki4got]

All this genetics talk has me curious what would you get from a lemon blue hen and black roosters.

nothing predictable. black can hide many variables as can white. so pretty much any off-color crosses are not predictable. won't say never, but pretty much close to it.

the blue gene is a dilution of black. so basically a blue or splash is genetically black with the dilution added. that's all. other color varieties layered on a black bird would be barred or mottled. barring is dominant, mottling is recessive, but still basically on a black bird.

white is capable of masking pretty much all other mutations.

crossing gold and silver varieties of the same basic pattern (laced, partridge/silver penciled, brown-red/birchen) those crosses are more predictable.

but crossing a laced with a birchen, or black with anything, white with anything, that sort of thing, you're going to get a mishmash of stuff that's likely not reproducible or identifiable.