Cochin Thread!!!

[mjgigax]

A Rainy Afternoon~ Having coffee out in the shed waiting for the rain to let up, enjoyed visiting with some of the babies

I just love them at that age.

 

[wildwoodcochins]

I just love them at that age.

Just starting to "bloom"~

 

[wildwoodcochins]

My Mille Fleurs are looking good. Can't wait to hatch out chicks from these birds.

Beautiful

 

[lilcrow]

OMG!!! Are you kidding? I have absolutely no business with another variety, however I will make room no matter what. YES, YES, YES I would be interested in some Crele eggs.
By the way, they are absolutely magnificent, and yes your quality stock shines through. Is that a Crele hen next to the roos in this first picture?

I have been working on this color for several years now. This is where I am with the project right now. I started with very good quality cochins which I hope shows through in the pictures of the offspring below. I was considering selling a few eggs from these birds. If I tried to sell a few eggs from these birds, would anyone be interested? Just curious. BTW no birds to sell just eggs.

 

[Mr. Ree]

I really wished we had as much effort and as many people interested in breeding recognized varieties that are rare instead of focusing attention on "creating" a new variety that will take years and lots of money to get correct. I understand that without people doing this then we wouldnt be where we are today with the amount of vareties we have, but it just is a little disapointing that there are so many people ready to make time and spend a large amount of cash on trying to create a new variety when that time, money, and effort could be put where it needs to be and help revive some of the dying varieties that exist in Cochins today. And again, I am not knocking anyone for doing it, kudos to anyone who can make the whole way through. This is just my opinion on the issue and I soley speak for myself. Just wish we had more people working on Birchen, Red, Black-Tailed Red, SL, GL, etc instead of having so many "projects" to be working on.

And something else that really gets to me(a pet peeve I guess you would call it) is when people have imported birds of a breed and sale them for extreme prices because they were imported. I understand that every country has a different standard for what each breed then we may have, and some may be almost exact to one another, but when you buy a bird that was bred for another countries standard then how in return is that breeding birds to our standard?

Sorry to rant and rave, just my $.02.


~Casey

 

[wildwoodcochins]

Hoping someone can help me out here; I have this young cockrel, he was almost a self blue color, solid blue/grey when he hatched.
I'm not sure what he is. At the time I was hatching self blues, blue mottled and birchens, he is one of these 3. I am thinking when I look at him that he is a blue birchen. Does anyone else have an opinion on him?
Disregard his comb, he was pecked very badly at just a day old and his comb has so much scar damage that it will not grow out.

 

[Mr. Ree]

That color, I believe, is called Silver Blue. It should be marked like the Birchen but Blue replaces Black.


~Casey

 

[wildwoodcochins]

I really wished we had as much effort and as many people interested in breeding recognized varieties that are rare instead of focusing attention on "creating" a new variety that will take years and lots of money to get correct. I understand that without people doing this then we wouldnt be where we are today with the amount of vareties we have, but it just is a little disapointing that there are so many people ready to make time and spend a large amount of cash on trying to create a new variety when that time, money, and effort could be put where it needs to be and help revive some of the dying varieties that exist in Cochins today. And again, I am not knocking anyone for doing it, kudos to anyone who can make the whole way through. This is just my opinion on the issue and I soley speak for myself. Just wish we had more people working on Birchen, Red, Black-Tailed Red, SL, GL, etc instead of having so many "projects" to be working on.

And something else that really gets to me(a pet peeve I guess you would call it) is when people have imported birds of a breed and sale them for extreme prices because they were imported. I understand that every country has a different standard for what each breed then we may have, and some may be almost exact to one another, but when you buy a bird that was bred for another countries standard then how in return is that breeding birds to our standard?

Sorry to rant and rave, just my $.02.


~Casey

Casey; I totally understand where you are coming from and I agree to a certain extent. I do feel though, that if it were not for a breeder wanting to try something "different", we would not have some of the beautiful upcoming breeds that we have. For a prime example; the Mille Fleur Cochin. An absolutely beautiful bird as well as the Calicos.
I have absolutely fallen for the Calicos and have made them the main focus in my breeding program. I don't show and realize that the Calico is not a recognized breed. However, these birds are for my enjoyment.
I think that there are plenty of breeders (including myself) that will continue to work on the tried and true breeds and I don't feel as if there is any danger of them becoming extinct. I just think that if someone wasn't willing to step out of the box once in a while, we would never know our full potential as breeders. If a breeder wants to spend the money and the time to develope a "project" breed, I think that's a pretty good thing and I encourage it. Afterall, who does it hurt?
Don't want to step on any toes or make anyone upset.....Just my $.02

 

[lilcrow]

The Crele color is no more a "project" color than the GL, SL, Birchen or any of the rest of the lesser know varieties. If you check the feathersite.com you will find many rare varieties on there and a lot of them are well known and commonly bred in the U.K. The Crele color is one of those colors, it is accepted, exhibited and widely bred there.

 

[lilcrow]

Twyla, I had several cockerels that displayed this color pattern last year. I thought the same thing about several of them, that they looked like blue Birchens, but in fact what was going on was a match up between a particular hen and rooster somehow didn't provide the genetics to fully extend the Black or Blue color over the entire body of the birds. They were dead gorgeous, but of course they were of no use to anyone unless they just wanted yard art. They eventually ended up on the farm of a 4 H adviser, she loved them, thank goodness. Needless to say, I didn't repeat that breeding.

Hoping someone can help me out here; I have this young cockrel, he was almost a self blue color, solid blue/grey when he hatched.
I'm not sure what he is. At the time I was hatching self blues, blue mottled and birchens, he is one of these 3. I am thinking when I look at him that he is a blue birchen. Does anyone else have an opinion on him?
Disregard his comb, he was pecked very badly at just a day old and his comb has so much scar damage that it will not grow out.