Coffee's ready...

[chics in the sun]

Good Morning, chicken wranglers! I am back at work today after taking a sick day with my son yesterday. He had thrown up twice the evening before, and I decided just to stay home with him to keep an eye on him and give us both a break. I desperately needed to clean my house anyway, and now that that is done I can enjoy Mother's day weekend without having to clean!

Can't stay long today, gotta get busy. Enjoy your coffee!

 

[karl E lutz]

Good morning chicken wranglers,
Here Here Oesdog! Well put,I and many of our countrymen feel tghe samer wa6y as you!The joke of the day in this country was:Many doughtnut shops gas stations conveinient store will be closed today due to a death in the family!But as you said those children are indoctrinated at a very young age,"to hate christians".I have looked up web sites such as "The sunni way" and they believe Christians are baser then Jews and we will get more punishment in hell for our blasphemy!They "muslims duty is to kill all non believers .Their belief is, that if we deserve forgiveness God will forgive us in heaven,Their duty is to kill,I've read it in the koran a book even O'bama calls "holy"!

Give me a break!
Gotta Go, God "Our God The One that forgives" Bless You!

 

[karl E lutz]

good morning chicken wranglers
Scared you all away with my rant didnt I!

 

[KristyHall]

Quote:
tell me how many Muslims do you know personally? I mean personally not in passing.

I know several, I am close friends with one, (ho, mind you is born and raised in the US, well educated, intelligent, feminist, who wears a Hijab, is blond haired blue eyes, out spoken, white, and not ignorant in the slightest.) and it is no more true than saying Christians are taught early on that all non Christians are less than Christians and should be converted to Christianity and killed, though historically, Christian groups have, and still do this, and passages in the bible can be interpreted as instructing such horrors.

you have extremists in any group, and moderates in any group. you have people who take written works literally and people who take loose interpretations of written works, and people who doubt written works. And all holy books can and are interpreted differently by each reader, leader, and group, not to mention the any translations and versions of the holy books of the different religions, Christians included.

 

[KristyHall]

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Hay Karl - thought I would show you some of the Calves in the back paddock!!!! Now you all know we have weird animals so if you see something weird you wont think it is as weird as it looks ok. Yeap it sounds daft but the cow might not actually be a cow!!!! So I am finally posting Pics - !!!!

https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/59801_cow3.jpg

Yes she really does think she is a cow NOT a Donkey!!!!

https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/59801_cow6.jpg

https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/59801_cow5.jpg

https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/59801_cows1.jpg

https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/59801_cow4.jpg

And of course my little star - our very own cowboy Danny!!!

https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/59801_danny_cowboy.jpg

Anyhow I thought I would share these with you and Karl when are you going to show us your teathered floating calves????

Oesdog - Hope you like the CONKEY!!!! ( Her name is Fred by the way!)

adorable calves

 

[oesdog]

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tell me how many Muslims do you know personally? I mean personally not in passing.

I know several, I am close friends with one, (ho, mind you is born and raised in the US, well educated, intelligent, feminist, who wears a Hijab, is blond haired blue eyes, out spoken, white, and not ignorant in the slightest.) and it is no more true than saying Christians are taught early on that all non Christians are less than Christians and should be converted to Christianity and killed, though historically, Christian groups have, and still do this, and passages in the bible can be interpreted as instructing such horrors.

you have extremists in any group, and moderates in any group. you have people who take written works literally and people who take loose interpretations of written works, and people who doubt written works. And all holy books can and are interpreted differently by each reader, leader, and group, not to mention the any translations and versions of the holy books of the different religions, Christians included.

No one said anything about Muslims being ignorant - misguided maybe but ignorant certainly not. As for knowing Muslims - I lived in Bristol for a good few years of my life were I had many good close friends who were Muslims both male and female ( there were also friends who were girls and disapeared into underaged arranged marriages - sexual slavery) . I have certainly not in any way sugested that following the Muslim faith makes someone ignorant - it is their personal choice and many Muslims are very well educated like Osama bin Laden for example!!)

- However If they want to be radical fanatical vail wearing supporters of violence, terrorism, underaged arranged marrages and many other Koran based ideology fine - but DO IT IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY NOT OURS!!!!!!!! As for what you say about our Christian faith - we live in a Christian country that is constantly undermined by folk trying to intergrate other faiths while restricting our freedom to follow ours in our own lands.

Maybe you should educate yourself about what is really happening within the Muslim society both here in the UK in your own country and abroad and not just base what you think on one friend who has decided to donn the Veil!!! Over 800 young girls go missing from our schools every year. Just a few months ago a poor creature was burned to death because she was pregnant. Burned to death in her garden in a so called Honour killing by 5 men. She was only a girl in her early 20s.

Yes I agree with you fanatical "Christians" have done terrible things in the name of God abroad. I don;t support that at all and they Do not follow the will of GOD.

The new testiment of the Holy Bible under grace because of the sacrifice of Jesus our lord on the cross does not condemn - is merciful and tollerant and wants all to be saved. It is personal choice if someone does not want to follow our lord God. He instructs all Christians to "love our neighbor and our enemy there is NO instruction in the New testiment to Kill someone just because they do not want to be Christian. However there is instruction not to allow those who follow the teachings of false Gods to live amongst us. Judgement is for our lord God not for us.

If you want to be more understanding of the real world behind the vail - I can recomend some reading for you and also direct you to some good websites.

I also believe that if you want to post things of a political or sensitive religious nature then maybe you should use a PM as this is a valued thread and we do not want to lose it!!!!!!

Oesdog -

 

[KristyHall]

Quote:
tell me how many Muslims do you know personally? I mean personally not in passing.

I know several, I am close friends with one, (ho, mind you is born and raised in the US, well educated, intelligent, feminist, who wears a Hijab, is blond haired blue eyes, out spoken, white, and not ignorant in the slightest.) and it is no more true than saying Christians are taught early on that all non Christians are less than Christians and should be converted to Christianity and killed, though historically, Christian groups have, and still do this, and passages in the bible can be interpreted as instructing such horrors.

you have extremists in any group, and moderates in any group. you have people who take written works literally and people who take loose interpretations of written works, and people who doubt written works. And all holy books can and are interpreted differently by each reader, leader, and group, not to mention the any translations and versions of the holy books of the different religions, Christians included.

No one said anything about Muslims being ignorant - misguided maybe but ignorant certainly not. As for knowing Muslims - I lived in Bristol for a good few years of my life were I had many good close friends who were Muslims both male and female ( there were also friends who were girls and disapeared into underaged arranged marriages - sexual slavery) . I have certainly not in any way sugested that following the Muslim faith makes someone ignorant - it is their personal choice and many Muslims are very well educated like Osama bin Laden for example!!)

- However If they want to be radical fanatical vail wearing supporters of violence, terrorism, underaged arranged marrages and many other Koran based ideology fine - but DO IT IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY NOT OURS!!!!!!!! As for what you say about our Christian faith - we live in a Christian country that is constantly undermined by folk trying to intergrate other faiths while restricting our freedom to follow ours in our own lands.

Maybe you should educate yourself about what is really happening within the Muslim society both here in the UK in your own country and abroad and not just base what you think on one friend who has decided to donn the Veil!!! Over 800 young girls go missing from our schools every year. Just a few months ago a poor creature was burned to death because she was pregnant. Burned to death in her garden in a so called Honour killing by 5 men. She was only a girl in her early 20s.

Yes I agree with you fanatical "Christians" have done terrible things in the name of God abroad. I don;t support that at all and they Do not follow the will of GOD.

The new testiment of the Holy Bible under grace because of the sacrifice of Jesus our lord on the cross does not condemn - is merciful and tollerant and wants all to be saved. It is personal choice if someone does not want to follow our lord God. He instructs all Christians to "love our neighbor and our enemy there is NO instruction in the New testiment to Kill someone just because they do not want to be Christian. However there is instruction not to allow those who follow the teachings of false Gods to live amongst us. Judgement is for our lord God not for us.

If you want to be more understanding of the real world behind the vail - I can recomend some reading for you and also direct you to some good websites.

I also believe that if you want to post things of a political or sensitive religious nature then maybe you should use a PM as this is a valued thread and we do not want to lose it!!!!!!

Oesdog -

you started the political and religious thing, You bring it up, don't get upset when someone disagrees, nor pretend that you're innocent and someone else is starting something.

also, I find it interesting when a Muslim does something terrible, you say it is apart of the Muslim faith but when a Christian does something wrong they are not being Christian.

Christianity, Judaism and Islam are all from the god of Abraham,w ith similar roots, similar back ground, and origins in the same countries.

so when you say they should do things in their own countries. What countries are "their" countries? The middle east is full of violence of Christians and Jewish groups fighting over religion too. Christianity and Judaism came out of the middle east, and Ireland started out a non Christian country that was converted. Should Christians go back to "your countries" in the middle east?

BTW, have you forgotten about your own Northern Ireland? Both political and religious strife of different Christian and political factions?

I am quite educated of groups. I have read several versions of the bible, I have been to churches, interned serving Monks at catholic church, I have not fully read the Qur'an, It has several versions as well, like the Bible, but it is on my list of things to do.

I have also met extreme Muslims, as I have met extreme Christians who think their religion is the only right religion.

I will confront them just as fast as I will a Christian, a Buddhist, an atheist. (my uncle is an avid atheist who is also in the upper 1/2 percent of the 1 percent of the nation in intelligence and uses it as a weapon against anyone who believes in religion, and he and I tangle a lot on that topic.)

Being Muslim is no more misguided than Being Christian, or being Buddhist, or Being Atheist. Their is nothing wrong with any of those beliefs as long as you don't hurt someone, and being a member of those beliefs does not equal automatic human rights violations.

BTW my close friend's husband was a refuge, who speaks excellent Arabic, has seen a lot of horrors done in the name of Islam, and is well aware of the radical justifications of the Qur'an, very scholarly, and can debate anyone under the table on how , like the Bible, the Qur'an can be misinterpreted to justify anything.

 

[oesdog]

Quote:
No one said anything about Muslims being ignorant - misguided maybe but ignorant certainly not. As for knowing Muslims - I lived in Bristol for a good few years of my life were I had many good close friends who were Muslims both male and female ( there were also friends who were girls and disapeared into underaged arranged marriages - sexual slavery) . I have certainly not in any way sugested that following the Muslim faith makes someone ignorant - it is their personal choice and many Muslims are very well educated like Osama bin Laden for example!!)

- However If they want to be radical fanatical vail wearing supporters of violence, terrorism, underaged arranged marrages and many other Koran based ideology fine - but DO IT IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY NOT OURS!!!!!!!! As for what you say about our Christian faith - we live in a Christian country that is constantly undermined by folk trying to intergrate other faiths while restricting our freedom to follow ours in our own lands.

Maybe you should educate yourself about what is really happening within the Muslim society both here in the UK in your own country and abroad and not just base what you think on one friend who has decided to donn the Veil!!! Over 800 young girls go missing from our schools every year. Just a few months ago a poor creature was burned to death because she was pregnant. Burned to death in her garden in a so called Honour killing by 5 men. She was only a girl in her early 20s.

Yes I agree with you fanatical "Christians" have done terrible things in the name of God abroad. I don;t support that at all and they Do not follow the will of GOD.

The new testiment of the Holy Bible under grace because of the sacrifice of Jesus our lord on the cross does not condemn - is merciful and tollerant and wants all to be saved. It is personal choice if someone does not want to follow our lord God. He instructs all Christians to "love our neighbor and our enemy there is NO instruction in the New testiment to Kill someone just because they do not want to be Christian. However there is instruction not to allow those who follow the teachings of false Gods to live amongst us. Judgement is for our lord God not for us.

If you want to be more understanding of the real world behind the vail - I can recomend some reading for you and also direct you to some good websites.

I also believe that if you want to post things of a political or sensitive religious nature then maybe you should use a PM as this is a valued thread and we do not want to lose it!!!!!!

Oesdog -

you started the political and religious thing, You bring it up, don't get upset when someone disagrees, nor pretend that you're innocent and someone else is starting something.

also, I find it interesting when a Muslim does something terrible, you say it is apart of the Muslim faith but when a Christian does something wrong they are not being Christian.

Christianity, Judaism and Islam are all from the god of Abraham,w ith similar roots, similar back ground, and origins in the same countries.

so when you say they should do things in their own countries. What countries are "their" countries? The middle east is full of violence of Christians and Jewish groups fighting over religion too. Christianity and Judaism came out of the middle east, and Ireland started out a non Christian country that was converted. Should Christians go back to "your countries" in the middle east?

BTW, have you forgotten about your own Northern Ireland? Both political and religious strife of different Christian and political factions?

I am quite educated of groups. I have read several versions of the bible, I have been to churches, interned serving Monks at catholic church, I have not fully read the Qur'an, It has several versions as well, like the Bible, but it is on my list of things to do.

I have also met extreme Muslims, as I have met extreme Christians who think their religion is the only right religion.

I will confront them just as fast as I will a Christian, a Buddhist, an atheist. (my uncle is an avid atheist who is also in the upper 1/2 percent of the 1 percent of the nation in intelligence and uses it as a weapon against anyone who believes in religion, and he and I tangle a lot on that topic.)

Being Muslim is no more misguided than Being Christian, or being Buddhist, or Being Atheist. Their is nothing wrong with any of those beliefs as long as you don't hurt someone, and being a member of those beliefs does not equal automatic human rights violations.

BTW my close friend's husband was a refuge, who speaks excellent Arabic, has seen a lot of horrors done in the name of Islam, and is well aware of the radical justifications of the Qur'an, very scholarly, and can debate anyone under the table on how , like the Bible, the Qur'an can be misinterpreted to justify anything.

It is not a contest - I feel sorry that you are getting so upset and feel the need to defend yourself so much!

Every Blessing
Oesdog

 

[KristyHall]

Quote:
you started the political and religious thing, You bring it up, don't get upset when someone disagrees, nor pretend that you're innocent and someone else is starting something.

also, I find it interesting when a Muslim does something terrible, you say it is apart of the Muslim faith but when a Christian does something wrong they are not being Christian.

Christianity, Judaism and Islam are all from the god of Abraham,w ith similar roots, similar back ground, and origins in the same countries.

so when you say they should do things in their own countries. What countries are "their" countries? The middle east is full of violence of Christians and Jewish groups fighting over religion too. Christianity and Judaism came out of the middle east, and Ireland started out a non Christian country that was converted. Should Christians go back to "your countries" in the middle east?

BTW, have you forgotten about your own Northern Ireland? Both political and religious strife of different Christian and political factions?

I am quite educated of groups. I have read several versions of the bible, I have been to churches, interned serving Monks at catholic church, I have not fully read the Qur'an, It has several versions as well, like the Bible, but it is on my list of things to do.

I have also met extreme Muslims, as I have met extreme Christians who think their religion is the only right religion.

I will confront them just as fast as I will a Christian, a Buddhist, an atheist. (my uncle is an avid atheist who is also in the upper 1/2 percent of the 1 percent of the nation in intelligence and uses it as a weapon against anyone who believes in religion, and he and I tangle a lot on that topic.)

Being Muslim is no more misguided than Being Christian, or being Buddhist, or Being Atheist. Their is nothing wrong with any of those beliefs as long as you don't hurt someone, and being a member of those beliefs does not equal automatic human rights violations.

BTW my close friend's husband was a refuge, who speaks excellent Arabic, has seen a lot of horrors done in the name of Islam, and is well aware of the radical justifications of the Qur'an, very scholarly, and can debate anyone under the table on how , like the Bible, the Qur'an can be misinterpreted to justify anything.

It is not a contest - I feel sorry that you are getting so upset and feel the need to defend yourself so much!

Every Blessing
Oesdog

that... is passive agressive

 

[karl E lutz]

Oesdog
sorry about starting a threat,I feel no need to defend Christianity it seems we as christians face much oppression,and incredulity,Once again God Bless!