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Congrats on NPIP! AS soon as we process the extra cockerels we will do it as well. How many chickens do you have? Is $12 a set fee, or is it dependent on the number of birds tested? And, how long did the process take, from contacting them to getting results?

I only have 7 right now, 5 Speckled Sussex pullets, 1 RIR hen and 1 Blue Cochin hen. I think the $12 is a set fee regardless of flock size, and the only test I had done that they charge extra for was the one for Salmonella that can be transmitted through the eggs, I think that one was an extra $30. Even though I never eat an undercooked egg, totally worth it to me to know they are free of infection. I initially contacted them the week before the State fair, and because my flock is so small they would not make a special trip here, but I was able to bring my girls to Kristy Pabilonia at her hotel during the fair, and she tested out of the back of her vehicle and mine. In your case she would probably make a site visit and schedule it to coincide with at least one other visit in the area. So, three weeks between test and results, four weeks from initial contact. Not bad, really.
 
We are also a "hobby with a purpose"

I have put together some info for people for when we actually get all certified and producung chicks.
Here it is:

Who are we?
Owned and operated by Wendell and Beth Smith, Windy Ridge Dominiques is a small farm dedicated to the preservation of the American Dominique large fowl chicken. We typically only keep about 20 hens and a few roosters over the winter. Currently, we are one of two Dominique breeders and producers that we know of in Colorado and the only place (that we know of) where you can buy Dominique eggs in Southern Colorado. We also have two Norwegian Elkhounds. Our small farm is located west of interstate 25, close to Ft Carson’s east fence at about 5600 feet.


Our Chickens:
The American Dominique, sometimes called “Dominiques” or a “Dominicker”, dates from at least the early 1700’s in New England. They developed from the many different chickens brought to the new world. They were a favorite of the early settlers and pioneers due to their ability to forage and lay eggs nearly year round. These chickens were either single or rose combed (rose being most common), with “cuckoo” patterned dark grey and light grey barring. That means that the bars on the feathers don’t line up, giving a “cuckoo” or zigzag pattern. They were raised on family farms to provide meat, eggs, and feathers for pillows and quilts. The Dominique is a medium sized chicken that lays brown eggs. They are very hardy and excel at foraging. As other breeds were developed primarily for egg or meat production, the Dominique was almost lost. The American Dominique is slowly regaining popularity again in the United States. We also maintain a few hens of other breeds that lay blue and green eggs.


Our Operation:
We raise our chickens for the same products as did our early American ancestors: for the eggs, the meat and for the feathers. Our chickens are raised in an environment where they have a hen house and a large fenced area outside to scratch, dust bath, hunt for bugs, eat grass and weeds, and do all the other things chickens love to do. They do not live in cages. During breeding time, the breeding groups are housed in large pens until the selective breeding period is complete. At that time they go back with the other chickens. They always have access to as much food and water as they want, for as long as they want. Because we are in an area with many predators, such as coyotes, fox, owls and hawks, they are protected by fencing both around their very large run area. Besides the large hen house, they have nearly 4000 square feet on which to roam. We take good care of our chickens, by feeding them wholesome food, providing them comfortable housing, by protecting them from predators, by giving the flock regular health inspections and treating them for illness as needed. Besides commercial feeds, our chickens eat locally raised grains, and locally produced chicken feed, as it is available. They also eat bugs, grasses, weeds, etc. They love to eat vegetable scraps! We are NPIP (National Poultry Improvement Plan) certified, and licensed by the Colorado Department of Agriculture as egg producers. We practice bio-security to prevent diseases from spreading to our flock.


Our Products:
We sell eggs from our home. We also occasionally sell live chickens for pets, egg production or meat. We do not sell processed chicken. We can help you process your own by appointment. We also sell hatching eggs and will sometimes consign eggs for hatching to local schools or other organizations. On consigned hatching eggs, we may get some of the chicks back when the school is finished with the hatching project. We do not ship day old chicks; however we occasionally sell chicks at our home for pick-up.


Farm visits
Give us a call or write us an email to arrange for a Windy Ridge Dominiques tour.

Nicely done, Wendell! I was looking at the State Dept of Ag's website last week, and it looks like as long as you don't sell to supermarkets, you can sell up to 250 dozen eggs a month without any inspection requirement - so you can sell from your home or from a farmer's market. You'd have to have a pretty large flock to produce that many eggs - like 100 hens laying every day. I would have to go back and read it all again because the older and more distracted I get, the more likely it is I miss something. Is there a requirement to be licensed to sell eggs that I missed? Again, I have such a small flock I don't foresee selling eggs anytime soon, but it is useful to know, in case my flock grows and I do have a lot of extra eggs available for sale.

Are you going to avoid shipping day-olds because of the expense and hassle? I have never looked into it myself, but always assumed the shipping containers must be expensive unless you buy a lot, and then the gross cost would be high even if the per-unit cost was decreased, plus you have to have somewhere to store them.

I look forward to your progress reports, and expect to learn a lot from them!
 
Nicely done, Wendell! I was looking at the State Dept of Ag's website last week, and it looks like as long as you don't sell to supermarkets, you can sell up to 250 dozen eggs a month without any inspection requirement - so you can sell from your home or from a farmer's market. You'd have to have a pretty large flock to produce that many eggs - like 100 hens laying every day. I would have to go back and read it all again because the older and more distracted I get, the more likely it is I miss something. Is there a requirement to be licensed to sell eggs that I missed? Again, I have such a small flock I don't foresee selling eggs anytime soon, but it is useful to know, in case my flock grows and I do have a lot of extra eggs available for sale.

Are you going to avoid shipping day-olds because of the expense and hassle? I have never looked into it myself, but always assumed the shipping containers must be expensive unless you buy a lot, and then the gross cost would be high even if the per-unit cost was decreased, plus you have to have somewhere to store them.

I look forward to your progress reports, and expect to learn a lot from them!
Thanks! We are going to get all the inspections and permits, just because we want to have ALL our bases covered and to be ready for all foreseable scenarios. I work for an Airpline, I know how government agencies can be.......
We don't wqant to deal with the hassle of shipping chicks. Too much for what we are planning.
 
Wendell, I was interested to find #39 digging into the oyster shell with fervor the other day. Also has been watching the laying hens with interest, altho I haven't actually caught her in a nest yet.

Can't help but feel sorry for the EEs who are still the outcasts of the flock. Even the doms have turned against them pretty much.

Another funny flock trait is my GLW. Most of my birds seem to have given up on the egg song, only occasionally going to the trouble of singing. However my GLW has picked up the slack. She sings almost every time anyone goes into the nest. Comes to the coop door and sings while they are on the nest, and gives it her all whenever they leave the nest. I can count on a good 5-10 minutes of singing from her for almost every egg I get. Too funny.
 
Well, I seem to have some issue, and wanted to consult you experts. Normally my RIR and Blue Cochin lay mid to late morning, in the nest, nice firm shells. They have free access to oyster shell, and seem to consume it pretty regularly. Yesterday morning I fed my first batch of homemade yogurt. This morning when I opened the pop door I had two soft shelled broken eggs, one around the beak of the RIR who carried it down the ramp with her. I snatched it away before they could eat it, gross as it was, and scooped the other one out of the coop before they got to it also. Are/could these two events related? If so I am pitching the rest of the batch and trying again. I don't really eat yogurt so didn't try it, only occasionally have a flavored one and have been buying plain yogurt for the girls, so I thought the more economical way to give it to them was to make my own, but now I wonder if I did something wrong. It seemed a pretty simple process, but that doesn't mean I couldn't have messed it up.
 
Well, I seem to have some issue, and wanted to consult you experts. Normally my RIR and Blue Cochin lay mid to late morning, in the nest, nice firm shells. They have free access to oyster shell, and seem to consume it pretty regularly. Yesterday morning I fed my first batch of homemade yogurt. This morning when I opened the pop door I had two soft shelled broken eggs, one around the beak of the RIR who carried it down the ramp with her. I snatched it away before they could eat it, gross as it was, and scooped the other one out of the coop before they got to it also. Are/could these two events related? If so I am pitching the rest of the batch and trying again. I don't really eat yogurt so didn't try it, only occasionally have a flavored one and have been buying plain yogurt for the girls, so I thought the more economical way to give it to them was to make my own, but now I wonder if I did something wrong. It seemed a pretty simple process, but that doesn't mean I couldn't have messed it up.

It's fairly difficult to make a mistake making yogurt. If it firmed up and had that sourish smell, I'm sure it was fine. I am not sure why they would lay much earlier with the yogurt... I can't stress again that it is fairly hard to mess up on yogurt and not know it. Same with homemade sour cream, soft cheese, etc.
 
It's fairly difficult to make a mistake making yogurt. If it firmed up and had that sourish smell, I'm sure it was fine. I am not sure why they would lay much earlier with the yogurt... I can't stress again that it is fairly hard to mess up on yogurt and not know it. Same with homemade sour cream, soft cheese, etc.

That's kind of what I thought, just can't think of anything else that was different yesterday or last night. Plenty of oyster shell is being consumed so I don't think it's a calcium issue in terms of availability ... two normal eggs laid yesterday, seemed to be normal activity and alertness level. I sprinkled a little chia seed in the yogurt. I wonder if that somehow interferes with calcium uptake. Have to do some research I guess. I always thought of chia seed as just a different source of protein, but might have to look into it.
 
Well, I'm going to hazard a guess the problem was not the chia seeds:

"Chia seeds have been in use since the days of the Aztec and Maya in Mexico and South America. Both civilizations used chia seeds as a supplement for their chicken flocks.
I'm gonna say that anything that has been around that long is safe. Not only safe, but I believe beneficial."

http://boisebackyardchickens.blogspot.com/2012/04/chia-chicken.html

I will be watching them and probably going to dispose of the rest of the yogurt on the off chance there is something wrong with it - I'll wait a couple of days to see how the situation evolves but I'm kind of at a loss. I wonder if there's any chance something spooked them in the dark that I didn't spot evidence of? The Sussex Sisters aren't laying yet and are currently housed separately, although they do have access to one anothers' runs during evening playtime - oh, wait, the youngsters are still on grower, I didn't see them do it but I wonder if the bigger girls snacked on some grower at the end of the day and it messed with their systems? I would think it would take a fair amount for that to have been the problem. Off to do more research I guess.
 
I have a question for people with Hens and Roos. What feed do I switch to after the starter/grower? I hadn't planned on having Roos, but have two or three now, so I don't think I should use Layer feed. Ive seen mention of all flock? Or something like that?
Help is greatly appreciated.
~Ashley
 

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