Concerned about possible liver failure

[topochico225]

Good information.

You may be one of few who go through the effort to find out what happened, thanks for that!

Yes, FLHS can be genetic but it's *usually* coupled with excess calories from ANY source AND possibly nutrient deficient because of it.. aka too many treats or not fed a complete chick ration at the correct age.. not pointing fingers.. JUST having a discussion AND continuing my learning journey. For me, ALL things immune/health system related start with genetics and may or MAY NOT be influenced by environment.

Merck vet manual suggest ensuring selenium content of the diet along with some other possible suggested modifications..

https://www.merckvetmanual.com/poul...e/fatty-liver-hemorrhagic-syndrome-in-poultry

Thanks for sharing, sorry you face this!

Now I've wasted your time and not answered your question.. will follow up after some review. Hang in there!

Haha, you haven't wasted my time! I'm just curious about the health of my girls. Thank you so much for your help!

 

[Kiki]

Haha, you haven't wasted my time! I'm just curious about the health of my girls. Thank you so much for your help!

I briefly skimmed this thread.
Are you aware that Corid does not treat worms?

 

[topochico225]

I briefly skimmed this thread.
Are you aware that Corid does not treat worms?

Yes. I'm doing Corid for the blood spots in one hen's poop.

 

[Kiki]

She pooped oddly this morning, but I didn't think much of it, as I'm about to worm my girls as soon as the Corid powder arrives this week.

Ok...I was just making sure because I saw this:

 

[topochico225]

Ok...I was just making sure because I saw this:

Gotcha! Sorry if that was confusing.

 

[theoldchick]

https://tvmdl.tamu.edu/2020/04/06/fatty-liver-hemorrhagic-syndrome-in-a-chicken/

 

[topochico225]

https://tvmdl.tamu.edu/2020/04/06/fatty-liver-hemorrhagic-syndrome-in-a-chicken/

Thanks! I have a FLHS necropsy result from my other RIR that died in January, but this is great to compare it to. It's so hard to look at my hen and diagnose FLHS, because FLHS causes sudden deaths.

 

[Kiki]

Thanks! I have a FLHS necropsy result from my other RIR that died in January, but this is great to compare it to. It's so hard to look at my hen and diagnose FLHS, because FLHS causes sudden deaths.

Please don't feed treats.
Complete balanced diet will prevent this.

 

[EggSighted4Life]

Yes. I'm doing Corid for the blood spots in one hen's poop.

The blood spots I don't THINK are coccidiosis.

Corid works by blocking thiamine to starve out and slow the growth of coccidia. Using vitamin supplements should not be done at the same time as the negate each other.

Only one strain known to effect chickens appears as blood in droppings.. and it looks like they had a bleed out, started menstruating, or someone got stabbed..

You could get a fecal float to look for worms and coccidia load.. to make sure that you treat the right thing IF there is anything to treat in that regard.

100% I agree the BEST thing a keeper can do to prevent this on their part is feed only a balanced diet.. no treats.

I MIGHT go with a grower or flock raiser (even a lower protein 18% starter like nature best organic or purina non medicated) with oyster shell free choice on the side over "layer".. well, I WOULD, but you might consider it among your research, noting RIR are dual purpose breed and "layer" is the minimum considered to keep light bodied birds like Leghorn in laying condition..

 

[Eggcessive]

X2 on Corid not treating worms. Worms can be a cause of blood specks in droppings, but you may never actually see worms without having a fecal float done by your vet. For worming, Valbazen or SafeGuard Liquid Goat Wormer are the best most effective for most worms.

Can you post any pictures of your hen’s poop? Yellow urates in the poop can be a sign of liver disease. I had one hen who I did a necropsy on at home who had fatty liver disease, and who had 2 inches thick fat and a large blood clot on her tan liver. None of the others have ever had that, and I do necropsies on most of the ones who have died over the years. Fatty liver can have numerous causes, such as genetic predisposition, poor diet high in carbs and fat, exposure to aflatoxin or funguses, and many other.