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Where are you buying yours and why is it so expensive? Maybe you need to check Atwoods!

I've seen those "dishes" that are refilling-- did your stable buy that set up or create it? The ones I've seen online almost look like the dentist sinks-- sort of like a small basin. I think that's a really neat idea.
I actually get it at Atwoods about half the time but I am getting the Nutrena rather than that Atwoods brand. Since it is in 50lb bags, that is what makes some of the difference in price, I think (i.e. 20% more grain). You're right that my horse is an easy keeper - I switch between several brands of grain because Nutrena sends me coupons by email from time to time and they're usually decent - $5 off per bag. So although the price might start at $13, by the time I check out, I've only paid $8 for a 50lb bag. Same with Purina. They send me coupons (sometimes up to $10 off!!!) so when I have one of their coupons, I swing by TSC or our local Ace which is a Purina dealer, and get their 50lb bag. They have a deal too, where after you've bought 12 bags, you get a bag free. So all in all, I'm probably not paying more than you. But that only works because I really only need a bag a month. If I were buying a bag a day, I probably couldn't shop around so much and use the coupons and still be worthwhile.

Your horses look good so I wouldn't change a thing!

On the water dish, it sounds like the one you described - the dentist sink. Our barn manager set it up so I don't know where he got it or exactly how he did it but it has worked flawlessly since I've been out there.

Little Miss Fern keeps squeezing under the chicken wire fence :)
In my month's experience (hee hee) of owning a LGD, I would have to say they don't tolerate confinement well. For example, if I leave the gate of the lagoon open, she loves to go in there and nose around and check it out. So I had this great idea that when I am going out for a few hours, I can put her in there to ensure she doesn't go up and bother the neighbors while we're gone. So I tried that and she greeted me in the driveway when I got home. Tried again, and she was out in no time. I couldn't figure out where she was getting out. Turns out she dug a VERY shallow depression under the gate and was squeezing her huge bulk out through that. My 37lb super skinny dog said there was no way she could fit under that so she just stayed in the lagoon fence but the 100lb LGD was able to get out through that tiny opening. Honestly, if you'd asked me, I would have said there was no way her head would have fit, let alone the rest of her body, so they really are escape artists. The only way we've been able to confine ours is on a tether, which I hate using. But, the battery for the invisible fence collar arrived today so we can start training her on it. Yeah!!!

On a sad note I lost my beagle "Lucky" of 16 years on Sunday. I had to take her in to be put down. She was just old and in so much pain. Sad day around the house.
So sorry about Lucky. It is always hard to have to say goodbye to one of our friends.

Okay, so I did more bumblefoot surgery today! DANZ--- I got the "before" pictures for you. Here are today's photos!

The bumble foot before anything was done. Although-- these are feet that have already been soaked for about 5 mins in the Epsom salts in the sink. So they are mostly clean and the round spots are the Bumble.
Thanks for this set of pictures! I wondered about using peroxide. I had a bottle the other day and thought about using it but none of the treatment examples I had heard of had mentioned it so I didn't want to risk it not being good for this purpose. I think I will try that next time though.

I did surgery on my hen with the worst case on Saturday, and it didn't go as well as I would have liked. I was able to get out a few small pieces of bumble but never found a big stalactite like I had thought I would see. I dug around for quite awhile longer than the hen was happy about but finally just squirted in some Neosporin and bandaged her up. She kept the vet wrap on for two days but got it off yesterday, right before I planned to do it myself anyway. Her foot doesn't seem as swollen now as it was before the surgery so I'm hopeful I got it.

HEchicken-Do you still want silchin broody fool chicks? I have a bunch sitting on the counter that I can stick in the bator if you want them, otherwise they will get scrambled.
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I think I'm going to have to say "yes"
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....but i was told i didn't have to give grain sense she had free access to pasture.
At this time of year the grasses have very little left in them in the way of nutrition. My sister and I actually just had this discussion a few days ago because we noticed that our horses when turned out, instead of going and grazing, are staying up near the pens and eating hay instead. The uncut grasses "look" just like hay still growing in the field but if they are not cut, they lose nutrition so eating it is even worse than eating hay. You will notice that hay growers are very particular about when they cut the hay. They need to wait for it to be long enough to get a decent yield, but can't leave it too long or it loses nutrition standing there in the field, and then their quality won't be good. So they have a somewhat narrow window in which to cut and end up with hay that people want to feed their animals.

So having free access to pasture this time of year isn't enough. In the spring, yes, I would agree that she might not need much supplement, but I wouldn't risk it this time of year, and especially not in the winter.
 
I actually get it at Atwoods about half the time but I am getting the Nutrena rather than that Atwoods brand. Since it is in 50lb bags, that is what makes some of the difference in price, I think (i.e. 20% more grain). You're right that my horse is an easy keeper - I switch between several brands of grain because Nutrena sends me coupons by email from time to time and they're usually decent - $5 off per bag. So although the price might start at $13, by the time I check out, I've only paid $8 for a 50lb bag. Same with Purina. They send me coupons (sometimes up to $10 off!!!) so when I have one of their coupons, I swing by TSC or our local Ace which is a Purina dealer, and get their 50lb bag. They have a deal too, where after you've bought 12 bags, you get a bag free. So all in all, I'm probably not paying more than you. But that only works because I really only need a bag a month. If I were buying a bag a day, I probably couldn't shop around so much and use the coupons and still be worthwhile.

Darn! I could use some coupons!! How do you get them? My bag of grain costs about $16.99 at Orschelns and lasts about 2 weeks. I would love coupons!!!!

I think I'm going to have to say "yes"
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I will stick them in tonight after I clean out the bator from this last hatch. You might get some mystery babies because there is someone new laying in that pen and it is either another silkie hen or a silkie/cochin cross hen. We shall see!
 
I'm looking at the nutrena knowledge center what the difference in textured and pelleted feed? Does it matter which one? I don't see a atwoods close by can anyone recommend a brand of feed im currently looking a nutrena and dumor
 
I logged in to my profile planning to send you the link but realized that was going to be a link to the login page and without your own login you wouldn't be able to see anything. I can't find where I initially signed up but I did find that from my profile I can have them send emails to friends on a referral basis. In the interest of full disclosure, it does say that for every friend who signs up to get the coupons by email, they will also send me a $5 coupon off my next bag. Anyway, if you want to PM me your email address, I'll send you the referral. In addition to the horse coupons I also get poultry coupons from them so it has been worthwhile to me.
 
I'm looking at the nutrena knowledge center what the difference in textured and pelleted feed? Does it matter which one? I don't see a atwoods close by can anyone recommend a brand of feed im currently looking a nutrena and dumor

Textured feed you will be able to see the whole grains, and it will have some pellets mixed into it as well. Pelleted feeds will just be all pellets. It is personal preference to some extent. I feed a pelleted feed.
 
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I think I'm going to have to say "yes"
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I will stick them in tonight after I clean out the bator from this last hatch. You might get some mystery babies because there is someone new laying in that pen and it is either another silkie hen or a silkie/cochin cross hen. We shall see!
Yay! I love surprises! Thank you!
 
Great job. Next time I'm using peroxide, too.

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Okay, so I did more bumblefoot surgery today! DANZ--- I got the "before" pictures for you. Here are today's photos!

The bumble foot before anything was done. Although-- these are feet that have already been soaked for about 5 mins in the Epsom salts in the sink. So they are mostly clean and the round spots are the Bumble.

Very small bumble:


Very LARGE bumble (before) picture:



Okay-- and here is what that really large scab looks like when it's pried off!! This is SO cool!!!!




Here it is when it's been pulled off and I cleaned it out with Iodine and then sprayed peroxide on it until more stuff started fizzing out and the peroxide pushed out all this white stringy stuff that I was able to use my tweezers on and get it pulled out. That peroxide rocked!! See how pretty it is now??!
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And then putting Triple Antibiotic on the gauze and then wrapping vet wrap around the gauze. All done!
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You can see a bit of gauze peeking out-- I meant to cover it all, but whatever.
 
I'm getting a headache reading all this stuff about caring for horses. I can't imagine remembering all that you have to do. I suppose if I ever do get a pony I will learn a whole lot more.
Thanks so much for the birthday wishes! I did have a really good day and actually got to take a nap!! I hardly ever get a chance to do that. I had some things to take care of this morning that turned out well so that is one more reason to be happy.
And I have lavender Orps hatching which is such a great present in itself.
I will certainly be able to remember how old they are.
My sister just called and is coming out for a bit. DH is wanting to go out to eat but I don't know if he'll make it back from work in time or not.
Thanks for the pictures, Hawkeye! That one with the little spots just looks like dirt to me. I still haven't noticed any signs on any of the birds, but I've just checked the tops of their feet as they walk by me.
I still have the albino turkey in the brooder house. I can't find anything about albinos, other than people calling white wild turkeys albinos just because they are white. I've seen a couple of those over the years and I figure it is just a white gene
 
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