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I logged in to my profile planning to send you the link but realized that was going to be a link to the login page and without your own login you wouldn't be able to see anything. I can't find where I initially signed up but I did find that from my profile I can have them send emails to friends on a referral basis. In the interest of full disclosure, it does say that for every friend who signs up to get the coupons by email, they will also send me a $5 coupon off my next bag. Anyway, if you want to PM me your email address, I'll send you the referral. In addition to the horse coupons I also get poultry coupons from them so it has been worthwhile to me.
Ohhh!! I will PM you my email! I love coupons and saving money! I feed nutrena chicken feeds too so coupons would be wonderful!
im giving myself a headache trying to figure out whats best to feed her.
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michelle- Don't give yourself a headache! It is not that complicated!

Number one: Fresh clean water
Number two: Forage! This can be good quality pasture (go walk your pasture right now, I bet there isn't much out there that isn't burnt to a crisp) Or hay (either good quality prairie or brome) I stay away from fescue, bermuda grass etc.
Number three: Mineral supplement, your feed store should have salt blocks (white) and mineral blocks (brown) for horses. We have one of each plunked out in the field for them to use as they need.
Number four: Supplementation in the form of grain, pellets or something of the like. Call your vet and ask what they recommend feeding a young horse. I would imagine they will tell you to feed a prime type pellet for growing horses. I feed pellets because that is what I prefer. I like nutrena, I have always fed nutrena, it is just personal preference.

The MOST IMPORTANT thing you need to do right now is get hay for winter. If you don't have hay yet I would suggest you start looking. Brome is going for $8 to $12 a square bale right now and good prairie hay is practically non existent. Get hay! You probably need to start feeding hay now because the grass in the pastures are so dry there is very little nutritional value in it for a young growing horse. I have 110 bales of brome in the barn for 2 minis and 2 full grown 10-15 year old horses for the winter and will probably get more. Stock up, we are in a drought and there will be no more hay and the grass is dormant.

Questions to ask:
1-When was your hay cut? (earlier is better, if they say last week it is probably garbage because it is fried)
2-Is your hay horse quality? (keep in mind folks may lie, but this usually means not moldy, put up dry, not full of weeds, not really brushy or full of sticks etc)
3-Was your hay put up dry and when? (did it get rained on before it was put up, bad, bad for horses =moldy hay, no good and you don't want it and did it sit out in the field and get fried in the sun for three weeks=lower nutritional value)
4-How much do your bales weigh? (if the bale weighs 75 pounds you won't need as many to feed her than if the bales weigh 50 pounds, use this to price shop a bit too, look for hay that is heavier, more bang for your buck, if you get a 55 pound bale for $8-9 or a 75 pound bale for $10 which would you rather have?)

Worry about the grain/supplementation later. Your best bet is to get hay for her, she hasn't died yet without grain, she will be fine for a while, you just might want to look into getting her something because she is a growing horse and not all hay/grass will have everything she needs for vitamins in it. Horses can do very well on good pasture but right now the grass is burnt to a crisp and isn't very nutritional so she may need something extra. Start with forage, see how she does and go from there. Talk to your vet, they are very helpful people!
 
Oh my goodness Danz, how did I miss that it is your birthday today? I remember you saying last week that it was coming up but didn't realize it was THIS soon!!! Fortunately, I realized before the day is all the way over so I still get a chance to say

HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!

Congratulations on the lavender orps - what better gift could there be than some brand new, beautiful little chicks?
 
Josie, great horse advice. I like the breaking it down to bullet points.

Michelle, it takes time - give yourself a break. I was horse crazy from the time I was 9 and read everything I could get my hands on. Then I had a horse of my own as a teenager and after a hiatus of a couple of decades, got back into horses in the last few years. So I've learned bits and pieces over a long period of time. Some of it is different as I grew up in Australia and had my first horse there. We rode English and did a lot of things just a bit different than here. So when I got back into horses this time, I had a whole new learning curve as I learned to ride western, and had to learn how to do care and feeding in a western setting. For example, we had different types of hay there so I had to learn about brome and prairie, and I had to figure out a new type of feed because all the feeds are different. So I get where you are coming from, and even though I kind of had the horsey background, I still had a huge learning curve. Allow yourself to relax and learn a little at a time.
 
Josie, great horse advice. I like the breaking it down to bullet points.

Michelle, it takes time - give yourself a break. I was horse crazy from the time I was 9 and read everything I could get my hands on. Then I had a horse of my own as a teenager and after a hiatus of a couple of decades, got back into horses in the last few years. So I've learned bits and pieces over a long period of time. Some of it is different as I grew up in Australia and had my first horse there. We rode English and did a lot of things just a bit different than here. So when I got back into horses this time, I had a whole new learning curve as I learned to ride western, and had to learn how to do care and feeding in a western setting. For example, we had different types of hay there so I had to learn about brome and prairie, and I had to figure out a new type of feed because all the feeds are different. So I get where you are coming from, and even though I kind of had the horsey background, I still had a huge learning curve. Allow yourself to relax and learn a little at a time.
It is so much to learn! I have been riding since I was 9 too!! I am still learning. When I moved here I was like what kind of hay is that? In Maine we fed timothy hay, I had never heard of brome or prairie hay before! I am still learning from my mistakes. Like last year I paid $7 a bale for really poor quality prairie hay and the horses wouldn't eat it. DH and his dad went and picked up a load of brome for me two years ago and it was just garbage. It was from my regular hay supplier and usually his hay was very nice but he ran out and had some trucked in to fill client orders. It was full of weeds, branches and giant prickly stems. I bled everytime I picked up a flake! He wouldn't return my phone calls either. Needless to say I found a new hay supplier.

Now that we have moved up near KC I have had to find another hay supplier. Guy I used last year was ok but his brome was pretty yellow and kind of musty. Not moldy, but it was pretty dusty for horse hay. He raises cattle... I did find a guy about an hour away this year with awesome hay but we paid a small fortune for it. I can't believe how expensive it got so quickly. Ugh. It is stressful worrying about hay so I am not going to. I think I lost a lot of sleep over hay the last couple weeks!

Michelle- Don't fret too much. A young horse is much easier than an old horse with no teeth so you have that going for you for sure! I am sure you will take wonderful care of her. You are already doing a lot more for her than most folks do for their horses by trying to learn what is best for her.
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Speaking of horses, I have to go feed mine and then I will try to post some pics of the new brahma gang!!
 
Well I went & got the bulk feed today so we'll see how my birds like it. I put some in the turkey pen & the grow-out pen tonight & the young chicks didn't seem as excited about it as the feed I've been feeding them, but it was the first time they have seen it. I guess I will have to go to the CO-OP tomorrow & get some soybean meal, that is what was recommended to me to boost the protein for the peafowl, turkeys, & guineas. I was told a 50# bag should last awhile because you don't have to use a lot of it at a time to mix into the base grain mix. Does anybody know of anything else that I could use instead to up the protein? The feed itself is 16% without adding anything & I think the other birds need at least 22%.

I got to meet Sunflowerparrot's little GP pup Fern this evening, she is a cutie & boy does she look just like Jasmine when she was her age. These dogs just amaze me the more I see of them, the more I'm impressed. This little pup is only 10 weeks old & she is just so well behaved & calm. She just seems to be doing great & I'm so happy for you Sunflowerparrot! She just ambles around her little area with the chickens & when she is out she stays right around where she's supposed to. I hope things continue so well for you!

Well I went to shut up my chickens tonight & the little brown leghorn that I just let out of her cage again was nowhere to be found, so now I don't know where she has gone again. I guess she didn't learn her lesson the first time after losing half of her feathers. Gosh I just couldn't believe she didn't follow the others into the coop tonight. One of my Lakenvelder hens appears to be missing also, she had a bad habit of going through the fence into the property next door & there are a lot of trees back there, she may have met up with a predator back there. I really am not that fond of those hens, they're too flighty for my liking, but they do lay pretty regularly. I can't wait until my new little pullets start laying because I have some slackers around here I'm thinking of getting rid of. Hopefully in a couple of months I will have some new layers producing.

Danz, I think almost all of the lavender Orps I hatched are going to turn out to be roos darn it. I was really hoping for some pretty lavender hens. I don't know yet about the lav orp/porcelain isabels I got from Chooks, but the others sure are looking like roos. Anybody need a lavender Orpington roo?

I didn't get back from getting feed & visiting Sunflowerparrot's place until it was getting close to dark this evening & when I went in to feed the chicks in the grow-out pen they were going into the dog house to sleep, kind of funny to see chickens sleeping in a dog house, but these are. I have a roost in the pen, but since they're all pretty young yet not too many roost on it yet.
 
Thanks for all the birthday wishes. I am officially old. We went to eat and I asked for the senior discount! Now that is bad. Had I been thinking I could have gotten my dinner free but I didn't realize they did that on birthdays. I went to Orschlen's and got some chick starter. Whoa! The price went sky high! It is no longer beneficial to buy it there when it is as high for a 40 pound bad as Purina is for a 50 lb bag. I am sure Purina will go up too.
So Trish did you still get the feed for $ .17 a pound or had it gone higher? Soy bean meal is pretty pricy so that is going to raise your cost some.
I'm trying to figure out ways to save some $$ on feed short of getting rid of all the birds. Even buying in bulk it is getting way too expensive for me.
 

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