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[checoukan]

Way to go. Its so fun!

 

[HEChicken]

Thanks, it was soooo fast, I couldn't believe it! Nothing was pre-cut, either! They literally showed up with a ton of lumber on the flatbed and started sawing away. There were two guys and they were a team! Amazing-- really, I was in shock and awe! LOL

Wow. Do you think maybe they had done it once or twice before???? That is amazing. When you said 4 hours, I figured everything was pre-cut and even then it is pretty fast to put it together. But add in the cutting and that's really amazing. When I think how many days it took me to build my coop.....I really would like to see a picture. I've seen a few places like that out on West Kellogg so would love to get the name so if I ever again need to put something up, I have a place to call. Sounds like a pretty good deal.

My turn, I was getting a huge splinter out of 4 yo ds's foot, I hear cheeping like crazy, stopped to look, the chicks are pecking at the eye of the chick with the hurt eye. It was bleeding, I was freaking, I called for help. 10 yo dd hobbles in and had wiped out on her bike and bleeding. I called for help again, didn't know which way to go. 8 yo set up new brooder for hurt chick, 13 yo holding pressure on chicks eye, 15 yo tends to splinter and I go to 10 yo and get her fixed up, then back to 4 yo and took care of him, then back to chick. Chicks bleeding stopped, I can't tell where blood was coming from, maybe beside her eye, applied Neo sparingly, now chick is crying by herself. Oh no, bread a bit over done, geez, I can't catch my breath. Sigh, typing for a minute helps me catch my breath. I gotta finish dinner.

Oh my, what an evening. Glad things are settling down for you somewhat.

GOT MY FIRST EGG TODAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yay - congrats!

Danz, your post didn't multi for some reason but I am so, so sorry about the pig. I too had been concerned for your safety as that little thing got bigger. A little mean pig is one thing but a big mean pig can really do some damage. I hope he pulls through this, and that the castration settles him down so he's easier to handle after this.

 

[JosieChick]

Good idea checoukan. I have some linoleum scraps.

Just be careful with linoleum. Make sure it is well covered with bedding or something that won't shift. I had two goslings on a piece of linoleum this spring with lots of shavings and one of them managed to slide a lot of the bedding over and got onto the floor and couldn't get his bearings. He must have slipped and struggled all night and by the time I found him in the AM he was just exhausted and had terrible spraddle leg. I lost him a day later and I am sure he would have been fine if he hadn't struggled so badly all night right after hatching. Linoleum is nice to clean, just put something down on it that will give them some grip.

No, I didn't see a picture, I'll have to tell you what happened. It was a trade sort of thing, and this is a very reputable breeder. I'm thinking she sent me a non-bearded on accident..? OR.... she thought I meant non-bearded. Sigh. Well, either way, he's got great genes, just lacking a BEARD. sheesh!! That's kind of a big deal. I figured up about 3 generations (I hope not more!) to get the beard back by breeding back into my best bearded birds. That means that the wattles will have to switch over to being linked to bearded and non-existent vs the non-bearded which is genetically linked to the larger wattles and more red color in the combs. Sigh. I actually haven't told the breeder yet, I don't know how to go about it without sounding really ungrateful and mean. I don't want to cause any trouble and I know she didn't do it on purpose. Maybe luck will be on my side and the beard will show back up in offspring in the 2nd generation....

I know people out-cross ALL the time, so it can be done. I'm not saying it can't. Just was sort of hoping to dive right in without having to worry about genetic linked traits that will force me to cull even harder. I may have tons of cuties with no beards next year up for grabs! LOL I'm guessing the first hatch will be 50% with (sparse beards) and without. Take the sparse and breed back to my best beards, and then see what happens... But in the mean time, the foot feathering, the size, the wings... all of that is what I'm wanting, and he has those in spades.

Well, at least everything else is good on him! I would definitely call and chat with the breeder just to double check. I would want to know if I had sent you a bird and you had questions about it. I don't care for non bearded silkies myself so I could see you being concerned about that.


We had a shed built on our property this morning. It literally took the guys like a little over 4 hours!! Insane!! It's just a storage shed, and it's all built of 2 X 4 with the T1-11 siding and a shingle roof. I like it so much, I want to save up and have them back out and build me a silkie coop! It cost half of what my big coop cost me out there!

If you don't mind me asking, what company did you use? We are toying with the idea of moving back down that way so I am closer to what family we have and DH. I don't really want to be alone up here with an infant and all these animals. We are probably going to need a barn built and I am wondering if they do something like that also?

Hawkeye who built the shed? Was it tuff shed? They are the only ones right off hand I know that does that but I am sure there are others.
Well I really did it now. I think I killed my pig!!! I got DH to come out and help hold him while I castrated him. Didn't go as smoothly as I thought but I thought it was fine. I went out later and saw he was bleeding. The dumb pig managed to rip his whole hind end open and his guts were coming out. I tried to clamp it together so I could super glue it but he just ripped the clamps out. I tried to put gauze on and vet wrap to stop the bleeding and he tore that off.
So I gave him a shot of medacam to try to calm him down and reduce the pain. I told DH I didn't think there was anything else we could do because even if it was stitched he is so crazy he would rip it out. But he called the vet and is on his way with the pig. I have already done my stint at crying. I have castrated tons of pigs in the past and never had a dang problem at all. I told DH I didn't want to spend $100 for a vet bill for a $20 pig that is mean as spit but he took him anyway. I'm afraid the vet will just euthanize it anyway.
I feel like a murderer. I never hurt anything on purpose and I dang sure don't want to kill something. I NEVER puke but I was so close and covered in sweat! Why the heck didn't I just buy an older pig that was already cut? Sometimes I feel like a total idiot.. .and now I feel like a total failure on top of it.
I just wanted to raise some food and ended up murdering a pig.

Danz- SO sorry about your pig. That sounds really rough. I don't know much about pigs but DH talks about castrating them in vet school and I have never heard of them tearing themselves open. Maybe he will be ok?

Danz, it's not a tuff building. It's a stick built building they built for us on-site. We found them on West Kellogg-- they have a lot with a lot of pre-built buildings that you can buy and haul in. But they can build you one for cheaper-- because they won't charge you the hauling fee. I'll have to run back out and read the name off of the building. I forget! My DH probably remembers! It's for storage, not chickens. Sigh. I'll take a picture of it, too. It has a little loft area in the rafters, which is cool. It's not that big.

Awesome! What a great deal!

GOT MY FIRST EGG TODAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Congrats on the first egg!




I am wiped today. I am beginning to think it may be allergies. I haven't been taking anything but I may have to check my list from the Dr. to see what is safe. 12 weeks today! So excited, I am finally getting a little belly which is exciting and I talked DH into reading a so you are going to be a daddy book and he has been much more patient with me and my psychotic spells!

SO, I need some advice from you gals. I watched a documentary last night called The Business of Being Born. It was really interesting and covered the issues with current modern medicine and why having babies in a hospital with a doctor or OB may not be the best option for low risk moms. I have been really leery of the idea of an epidural but everyone I know has had one. But I keep reading that it can slow labor down and the use of drugs to increase contractions usually follow. The two drugs kind of play back and forth with each other because the induction drug causes such painful and frequent contractions that you then need more epidural and it leads to way more women needing c sections due to fetal distress. Sigh. I watched several home births on the documentary and despite the pain involved the whole process of birthing in a familiar place and with out drugs looks very appealing. I don't like hospitals and bright lights. I don't want to be tethered to a bed with an IV pole and I especially don't want drugs that can make me and the baby feel lousy and interfere with birth. I would love to hear of everyone's experiences!

 

[chicken danz]

Congrats Maidenwolf. That is always so exciting. My dumb birds seem to all by taking a break!!
Well the pig is still alive. I didn't go to the vet because I didn't want to bawl in front of him. I've done that before!!! Anyway he told DH he was simply herniated. Said it happens sometimes. I'm not so convinced. So as long as he doesn't go into shock and he doesn't get an infection he should be fine. He got stitches and a penicillin shot. I just checked on him and he is burrowed down in a big pile of straw.
You are right Checoukan. I raised pigs in the 70's and the only mean hog we ever had was a gilt with her first litter and she just went crazy. First she packed her farrowing house clear to the ceiling with straw. Then she had a real hard time having her pigs and even though we had an area for them to get away she bit every one of them. I tried to save a couple of them that she didn't kill instantly but they didn't make it. We had a pitch fork and a bottle of Crown Royal out there trying to save the pigs. The pitchfork was to fight her off and the crown royal was for courage.

Needless to say she went to the sale barn in a few days.
But as far as piglets we never had any mean ones. There were four pigs in this group and they were all sold separately. It was actually Kramer himself that had them for auction. I won't give up if this dumb pig lives. He will eventually see me as a food source and realize I am not there to harm him....Well, unless he remembers today. I am just baffled by this whole thing. He's not that old to be mean already.
I think I should stick to chickens and other flying animals!!!
I got the new cage pressure washed and it was getting dark but I think that made it look a lot better from what I could tell. I hope I got all traces of parrot poop out of there. Maybe tomorrow I will get more work done on it and can actually start setting it up for the chipmonks. I am looking forward to getting them in there because then maybe I can start trying to hand feed them. Supposedly that is how you tame them.
At least I had a good day with chickens. No tragedies there so far.
I had some contacts get hold of me and I actually ordered some more eggs. One day I might finally be satisfied that I can quit!!

 

[checoukan]

Josie, when I had my daughter, I was high risk.... They would not even do an epidural. All I had was some pain meds in my IV. It was not much pain medicine at all. I had discomfort yes. But, Im glad I did not have the epidural. I have a niece who had one, and she had TERRIBLE headaches afterwards from the epidural. She was really sick. I had to be in the hospital, because of my heart. And then, the cord was wrapped around her neck, and her heart slowed down to like 50 TWICE. Almost had a c-section, but we made it, and I would not have changed thing.

 

[chicken danz]

Just be careful with linoleum. Make sure it is well covered with bedding or something that won't shift. I had two goslings on a piece of linoleum this spring with lots of shavings and one of them managed to slide a lot of the bedding over and got onto the floor and couldn't get his bearings. He must have slipped and struggled all night and by the time I found him in the AM he was just exhausted and had terrible spraddle leg. I lost him a day later and I am sure he would have been fine if he hadn't struggled so badly all night right after hatching. Linoleum is nice to clean, just put something down on it that will give them some grip.

Danz- SO sorry about your pig. That sounds really rough. I don't know much about pigs but DH talks about castrating them in vet school and I have never heard of them tearing themselves open. Maybe he will be ok?
Awesome! What a great deal!
Congrats on the first egg!




I am wiped today. I am beginning to think it may be allergies. I haven't been taking anything but I may have to check my list from the Dr. to see what is safe. 12 weeks today! So excited, I am finally getting a little belly which is exciting and I talked DH into reading a so you are going to be a daddy book and he has been much more patient with me and my psychotic spells!

SO, I need some advice from you gals. I watched a documentary last night called The Business of Being Born. It was really interesting and covered the issues with current modern medicine and why having babies in a hospital with a doctor or OB may not be the best option for low risk moms. I have been really leery of the idea of an epidural but everyone I know has had one. But I keep reading that it can slow labor down and the use of drugs to increase contractions usually follow. The two drugs kind of play back and forth with each other because the induction drug causes such painful and frequent contractions that you then need more epidural and it leads to way more women needing c sections due to fetal distress. Sigh. I watched several home births on the documentary and despite the pain involved the whole process of birthing in a familiar place and with out drugs looks very appealing. I don't like hospitals and bright lights. I don't want to be tethered to a bed with an IV pole and I especially don't want drugs that can make me and the baby feel lousy and interfere with birth. I would love to hear of everyone's experiences!

Sounds like you are reading some dated information. Most of that isn't the way things are done at all. First I never had an epidural or any drug. I am what they call a loafer. I just never dilated. I would be at 2 and in heavy heavy labor but my body just didn't cooperate. Never had a labor less than 15 hours long. But when the head crowned I would jump from 2-10 and it was too late then to give me anything. I had 5 kids all the same way. It's not something you want to do every day but its something you forget after it's over.
Anyway in today's world they can give you an epidural at any stage. You used to have to be dilated to about 8 before they would do it cause it would wear off too fast. It doesn't involve drugging you or the baby up and doesn't require additional drugs to keep labor going. It is strictly a pain control thing. I was there when my daughter in law had my youngest grand daughter and it was nothing even close to what I had experienced.
I don't regret at all not having drugs and I think it would be great to have a child in a non-hospital setting. However there is so much more risk for the baby. Their temperature can fall so easily. they need blood tests and drops in their eyes, and cleaned up and monitored. I am sure there are some provisions for this but even with the very best of care, I think the baby needs every possible chance of making it. I think I would definitely want to find out what training the midwife had and what provisions are there for the infant.
My last child was born in a birthing room. It was more like a regular bedroom but in a hospital. The baby was fine but I had some problems so I was glad to be where I was. The problems had to do with having lots of kids and a couple of miscarriages but there was never any indication earlier that I would have anything go wrong. Had I not been where I was I would have bled to death. Like I said that wasn't normal and nothing that would happen with a first child but it's something to ask about and think about.

Back to the pig. I have castrated several pigs and it's always been easy and after they quit screaming they run off and everything is fine. I am sure I probably won't be doing any more after today. This was just too traumatic. I still feel awful.

 

[HEChicken]

SO, I need some advice from you gals. I watched a documentary last night called The Business of Being Born. It was really interesting and covered the issues with current modern medicine and why having babies in a hospital with a doctor or OB may not be the best option for low risk moms. I have been really leery of the idea of an epidural but everyone I know has had one. But I keep reading that it can slow labor down and the use of drugs to increase contractions usually follow. The two drugs kind of play back and forth with each other because the induction drug causes such painful and frequent contractions that you then need more epidural and it leads to way more women needing c sections due to fetal distress. Sigh. I watched several home births on the documentary and despite the pain involved the whole process of birthing in a familiar place and with out drugs looks very appealing. I don't like hospitals and bright lights. I don't want to be tethered to a bed with an IV pole and I especially don't want drugs that can make me and the baby feel lousy and interfere with birth. I would love to hear of everyone's experiences!

Lindsey, its best not to get me started on this topic....just sayin'

I am a firm believer that childbirth is a completely natural process and there is no reason to be in a hospital to do it. I know that things sometimes can and do go wrong, but that is where having a plan in place that allows for that is vital, but until something does go wrong, you will be more relaxed and labor better at home in your own environment.

When I was pregnant, I explored all of the options for pain relief and didn't like any of them, as none seemed to be without its detriments. In the end, I did natural labor and let me tell you, its just not that bad. I really dislike watching TV and movies, where they over-dramatize the whole thing and have the woman screaming that she hates the SOB who did this to her and he is never to touch her again and all that because IRL (in real life) it was not like that at all for me.

I do think that in America, labor and delivery has been made to be an especially touchy subject. In Australia, where I delivered both of my kids, it is still treated far more as a natural process. Home births and birthing suites are far more encouraged and available there than they are here. They don't have separate labor and delivery rooms - all action takes place in one bed, in one room, even in a hospital. (And personally, the transition moment is the last time in the world I want to be dealing with being wheeled from one room to another - I can't imagine what moron came up with that idea but I'm pretty sure he had a y chromosome).

I'm not gonna say there is no pain, because then I'd lose credibility. But its not the worst pain you'll ever experience. Its manageable and it is so worth it. You are right that induction makes it far more intense - let it happen naturally and it won't be as bad. And epidurals only mean you're going to have an episiotomy as well, and a tougher time in recovery. And possibly a forceps delivery since you can't feel what is going on, to push effectively. Plus, there is an intense pleasure in knowing what is happening when. I felt my kids crowning and being delivered and knew exactly what was happening at all times, to the point that when the midwife tried to listen for a heartbeat with her ear trumpet, I was able to tell her she wasn't going to feel it "there" - the baby was already much lower.

The other thing they will want to do that you have to opt out of up front, is they will want to give you a shot of pitocin to stimulate the expulsion of the placenta. That is for their convenience - not because it is better for you. I figure why not let the body do it naturally, so I opted out of that too. Also, they will tell you not to push even when the sensation that you need to push is so strong its hard not to. On this I have a hard time believing the body doesn't know when its the right time to push, so I don't agree with the advice not to. What happens when a dog, cat, cow or horse feels the urge to push? Will she listen if told not to? So why should we have this "health professional" telling us to ignore what our body is telling us is right?

You are really doing the right thing, asking questions and researching this now - you will be well prepared when the time comes to prepare your birth plan.

 

[JosieChick]

Josie, when I had my daughter, I was high risk.... They would not even do an epidural. All I had was some pain meds in my IV. It was not much pain medicine at all. I had discomfort yes. But, Im glad I did not have the epidural. I have a niece who had one, and she had TERRIBLE headaches afterwards from the epidural. She was really sick. I had to be in the hospital, because of my heart. And then, the cord was wrapped around her neck, and her heart slowed down to like 50 TWICE. Almost had a c-section, but we made it, and I would not have changed thing.

Thanks checoukan! I have heard that the headaches are not uncommon, it has to do with epidural drug leaching out of the dural space and affecting other nerves. My mom said she only ever had demerol IV when she had us. This was almost 30 years ago but she said they didn't even offer her an epidural.

Sounds like you are reading some dated information. Most of that isn't the way things are done at all. First I never had an epidural or any drug. I am what they call a loafer. I just never dilated. I would be at 2 and in heavy heavy labor but my body just didn't cooperate. Never had a labor less than 15 hours long. But when the head crowned I would jump from 2-10 and it was too late then to give me anything. I had 5 kids all the same way. It's not something you want to do every day but its something you forget after it's over.
I don't think it is that dated. Most of the books I have are fairly recent and the documentary is only a couple years old.
Anyway in today's world they can give you an epidural at any stage. You used to have to be dilated to about 8 before they would do it cause it would wear off too fast. It doesn't involve drugging you or the baby up and doesn't require additional drugs to keep labor going. It is strictly a pain control thing. I was there when my daughter in law had my youngest grand daughter and it was nothing even close to what I had experienced.
My doctor told me that the drugs in the epidural pass through the placenta and can lower the babies heart rate etc. That is why they insist on fetal monitoring to make sure the baby isn't in distress. It also slows labor contractions slightly and can cause lethargy after birth which can interfere with the first breast feeding. She still recommends one. It is common to have to add oxytocin to the IV drip after an epidural to keep contractions going strong enough.
I don't regret at all not having drugs and I think it would be great to have a child in a non-hospital setting. However there is so much more risk for the baby. Their temperature can fall so easily. they need blood tests and drops in their eyes, and cleaned up and monitored. I am sure there are some provisions for this but even with the very best of care, I think the baby needs every possible chance of making it. I think I would definitely want to find out what training the midwife had and what provisions are there for the infant.
I would definitely research a nurse midwife's credentials before going that route. In most other countries most babies are delivered by midwives and their maternal and infant mortality rates are much lower.
My last child was born in a birthing room. It was more like a regular bedroom but in a hospital. The baby was fine but I had some problems so I was glad to be where I was. The problems had to do with having lots of kids and a couple of miscarriages but there was never any indication earlier that I would have anything go wrong. Had I not been where I was I would have bled to death. Like I said that wasn't normal and nothing that would happen with a first child but it's something to ask about and think about.

The rate of c sections in this country is higher than anywhere else in the world. It should be around 3-5% and it is at 30%. I am afraid doctors can't take the risk of letting a mother labor anymore and its easier to just cut the baby out. I completely agree that medical intervention and c sections are absolutely necessary and save the lives of mothers and babies. I would like to avoid one at all cost unless I or the baby are at risk. I have already been told that I will only be allowed to go about a week past my due date before they induce me and that 12 hours of labor is about the cutoff before they start taking measures to move things along. I just don't want the stress of having a doctor telling me that I need drugs to get the baby out unless there is a good medical reason for doing so. I am a control freak and I want to be in control of the birth and not be drugged in a bed.

You ladies are tough! I can't believe how many people have birthed babies with no medications at all. My girlfriends my age can't imagine giving birth without every drug under the sun on board and one of them PREFERs to have C sections so it can be scheduled!!!!

 

[Hawkeye95]

I am wiped today. I am beginning to think it may be allergies. I haven't been taking anything but I may have to check my list from the Dr. to see what is safe. 12 weeks today! So excited, I am finally getting a little belly which is exciting and I talked DH into reading a so you are going to be a daddy book and he has been much more patient with me and my psychotic spells!

SO, I need some advice from you gals. I watched a documentary last night called The Business of Being Born. It was really interesting and covered the issues with current modern medicine and why having babies in a hospital with a doctor or OB may not be the best option for low risk moms. I have been really leery of the idea of an epidural but everyone I know has had one. But I keep reading that it can slow labor down and the use of drugs to increase contractions usually follow. The two drugs kind of play back and forth with each other because the induction drug causes such painful and frequent contractions that you then need more epidural and it leads to way more women needing c sections due to fetal distress. Sigh. I watched several home births on the documentary and despite the pain involved the whole process of birthing in a familiar place and with out drugs looks very appealing. I don't like hospitals and bright lights. I don't want to be tethered to a bed with an IV pole and I especially don't want drugs that can make me and the baby feel lousy and interfere with birth. I would love to hear of everyone's experiences!

Yes, I still need to talk to the breeder. I'm a weenie-- I'm worried about upsetting her! Sigh. I will write her tonight! And be very, very nice! LOL OMGosh-- I hope you move down here!!! Move to the Wichita surrounding area! Andover, Augusta, Derby, Goddard, Maize-- all great schools and great places to live! And hey, closer to me! BTW, I have a bunch of maternity clothes I can give you. I saved them in case we had a 4th baby, but we're NOT having a 4th baby! LOL I have some really cute bluejeans that are the low cut and shirts, etc. All of it is small-- well, you've seen me. I USED to be your size before I had 3 kids! haha! The homes down here are cheaper than up near KC. (we looked.... when we considered moving up that way) So housing out here in the rural areas would be really ideal. *wink, wink*

As far as birthing, I'm high risk. I have that pesky heart condition that gave me a heart attack at the age of 27. Blah. But whatever, we have great hospitals here in Wichita and both St Joe and Wesley have just re-done their mama suites! They are HUGE rooms and they look like hotel rooms, and you get your own nurse, and they wait on you hand and foot. I was never so pampered as I was in the hospital for my 3 births. I loved every minute of it. We had queen sized beds, they let you co-sleep with your newborns in the beds, your DH gets to stay and sleep with you in the room! They encourage it! They are okay if you want to cloth diaper, or whatever. They are really awesome.

The actual birthing itself... well, I did have to be given pitocin with my first. My water broke at home, went to the hopsital and I never did dilate any further, I was at a standstill, and then his HR started dropping... I was worried about a C, but they were determined NOT to do one. I wanted that epidural about 6 hours in. I waited as long as I could and kept putting it off. It came down to the fact that I could not rest, relax or even breathe anymore, it hurt so much. Once the epi was in, I fell asleep and everything went smoothly. Baby #2 had to be induced, unfortunately-- he was overdue AND he was 9.5 lbs! A BIG baby for me. I had back labor on him, and it felt like my spine was being torn in two. I kept holding off on the epidural and when I finally gave in, it was too late and it didn't work. They tried to move it 3 times and it still didn't work-- they moved it at MY insistence. I was the worst patient, because I could not think or breathe thru that back pain, I couldn't listen to them, I was out of my mind, it was not the happy experience I wanted like with my first. My 3rd baby-- my water broke at home, I barely had any time-- we got to the hospital and I knew she was coming, and I told them as they were wheeling me up from the ER that I wanted my epi right then and there--- that was even before the pain had REALLY kicked in! LOL I was determined to be a happy mama and enjoy the labor/birth. They got the epi in, and I had it in for about 10 minutes and it started working and I was ready to push, we were really strapped on time there. It was bliss! I was so happy and relaxed and cheerful! I'd do that one all over again.

Congrats Maidenwolf. That is always so exciting. My dumb birds seem to all by taking a break!!
Well the pig is still alive. I didn't go to the vet because I didn't want to bawl in front of him. I've done that before!!! Anyway he told DH he was simply herniated. Said it happens sometimes. I'm not so convinced. So as long as he doesn't go into shock and he doesn't get an infection he should be fine. He got stitches and a penicillin shot. I just checked on him and he is burrowed down in a big pile of straw.
You are right Checoukan. I raised pigs in the 70's and the only mean hog we ever had was a gilt with her first litter and she just went crazy. First she packed her farrowing house clear to the ceiling with straw. Then she had a real hard time having her pigs and even though we had an area for them to get away she bit every one of them. I tried to save a couple of them that she didn't kill instantly but they didn't make it. We had a pitch fork and a bottle of Crown Royal out there trying to save the pigs. The pitchfork was to fight her off and the crown royal was for courage.

Needless to say she went to the sale barn in a few days.
But as far as piglets we never had any mean ones. There were four pigs in this group and they were all sold separately. It was actually Kramer himself that had them for auction. I won't give up if this dumb pig lives. He will eventually see me as a food source and realize I am not there to harm him....Well, unless he remembers today. I am just baffled by this whole thing. He's not that old to be mean already.
I think I should stick to chickens and other flying animals!!!
I got the new cage pressure washed and it was getting dark but I think that made it look a lot better from what I could tell. I hope I got all traces of parrot poop out of there. Maybe tomorrow I will get more work done on it and can actually start setting it up for the chipmonks. I am looking forward to getting them in there because then maybe I can start trying to hand feed them. Supposedly that is how you tame them.
At least I had a good day with chickens. No tragedies there so far.
I had some contacts get hold of me and I actually ordered some more eggs. One day I might finally be satisfied that I can quit!!

SO GLAD the pig is alive. For no other reason, other than I just don't want you to think you killed him. But please consider, that is one crazy, mental pig! LOL




Okay, here is the shed--- It's small, I warned you! It's 10 X 8, I think?? It has a loft inside, but I didn't get a pic of that.

 

[Hawkeye95]

Oh, I should add, with my 2nd baby that I was induced on, it's wasn't JUST because he was overdue, that I was induced. I had two heart incidents towards the end of my pg with him, and I wound up in the ER twice with an over night stay. I came close to another heart attack with him. I was having arrythmias which caused me to faint and seize. I was put on pretty heavy duty class D drugs that are unsafe for a baby to stop me from going into full arrest. Once was in the parking lot of McDonalds and then I seized (heart seizure) but it looks like a regular seizure if you don't know the difference. The second one was same scenario, but it happened in church and I was in the balcony and the EMS had a fun time dragging me down. I wasn't even conscious until I was almost in the ambulance and I woke up and asked what the heck had happened. My chest was hurting, and it was scary because I realized that was the second time and there again, I was being drug off again for more bad drugs to get my heart to stop acting up. I actually had a 3rd episode, but I don't count it, because it was so short, I dropped in the church office a week later. They called the EMS then, too, but I came around much better and refused to be drug off again to the hospital for more drugs. After THAT... we decided I was overdue by a week and my OB was worried that the extra strain on my body was going to kill me... so just sayin', if you are healthy, that will make a BIG difference. I was not the best canidate for a home birth... at least, not with out a crash cart! LOL