Consolidated Kansas

[cubbysan]

My mother always had a thing about cats and babies (newborns young enough to be in a bassinet). She said the cat would snuggle up to the baby and suffocate it. She is not the kind of person who freaks out about little things, so I can only think this really happened somewhere in the world one time and she heard about it and it stuck with her. We had cats when my kids were little, with no problems.

But I have a similar phobia of my own, based on a real-life experience. Our next door neighbors when I was a kid, had 5 daughters, and apparently, in an attempt to get a son, had one more. They finally had their little boy but when he was 7 months old and crawling, he found an open safety pin, swallowed it, and died. It must have perforated somewhere and they may not have even known what it was until they did an x-ray, either before or after his death (I was very young so don't know the details). Anyway, this made a huge impression on me at only 4-5 and that was my one phobia when my own kids were small. So in the end we are all shaped by our own experiences.

Many older woman have told me "the cat will suck the breathe out of a baby" whatever that means. I had three indoor cats when my babies were born. They avoided my children like crazy. Never went near them until the children were old enough to carry them around.

My friend told me a similar story. Her aunt lost a toddler by swallowing a penny that he found, they did not know why the baby died until after his death. One thing I found as a choking hazard that I did not think about was when one of my daughters started crawling and went straight to my dog's dish and started putting all the kibble in her mouth. Scared the heck out of me!

 

[HEChicken]

Many older woman have told me "the cat will suck the breathe out of a baby" whatever that means. I had three indoor cats when my babies were born. They avoided my children like crazy. Never went near them until the children were old enough to carry them around.

My friend told me a similar story. Her aunt lost a toddler by swallowing a penny that he found, they did not know why the baby died until after his death. One thing I found as a choking hazard that I did not think about was when one of my daughters started crawling and went straight to my dog's dish and started putting all the kibble in her mouth. Scared the heck out of me!

Oh my goodness, I had almost the same experience except it was cat kibble. I guess when it encountered the moistness in her mouth, it swelled up enough she choked on it. I grabbed her and thumped her on the back, then did the heimlich maneuver but she was still choking. I called 911 and I could hear the sirens before I even hung up the phone. Emergency vehicles blocked our street and the firefighters burst in the door without knocking, grabbed her out of my arms, flipped her upside down and started working on her. She was blue by this time. Hearing her finally start to cough after they cleared her airway was like hearing her cry for the first time. I am so grateful to those EMT's and firefighters - without them my story might have ended very differently.

 

[JosieChick]

Ahhhhhh!!!!! Ladies!!!!! I need to sleep at night still!!!!

I don't plan on the baby sleeping anywhere the cats can get to her because I am worried about that. Our cats are very need and I can seem them viewing a sleeping baby as a wonderful tiny heater to snuggle up to! We have one young color point named Pippa that desperately wants into the nursery and I am sure she would have a napping hayday in there with the swing, bouncer, crib, bassinet and glider. She LOVES to sleep in things like that.

I am equally paranoid of choking on stuff. DH tends to leave change in his pants pockets then when he puts them in the hamper a coin will fall out on the floor so he has been getting berated about picking up his change and putting it in a safe place. They say anything that will fit inside a paper towel roll is a choking hazard. Yikes!

When I was really little and just starting crawling I used to like to sit in the bathroom and watch my dad shave before he went to work. One morning after he left I fished the thrown away end of the razor blade out of the trash and put it in my mouth. Evidently it got stuck in my cheek and sliced my gums all up and blood was pouring out my mouth. My mom about had an aneursym and my dad rushed home from work and managed to fish it back out. The things kids do!

My mother always had a thing about cats and babies (newborns young enough to be in a bassinet). She said the cat would snuggle up to the baby and suffocate it. She is not the kind of person who freaks out about little things, so I can only think this really happened somewhere in the world one time and she heard about it and it stuck with her. We had cats when my kids were little, with no problems.

But I have a similar phobia of my own, based on a real-life experience. Our next door neighbors when I was a kid, had 5 daughters, and apparently, in an attempt to get a son, had one more. They finally had their little boy but when he was 7 months old and crawling, he found an open safety pin, swallowed it, and died. It must have perforated somewhere and they may not have even known what it was until they did an x-ray, either before or after his death (I was very young so don't know the details). Anyway, this made a huge impression on me at only 4-5 and that was my one phobia when my own kids were small. So in the end we are all shaped by our own experiences.

Many older woman have told me "the cat will suck the breathe out of a baby" whatever that means. I had three indoor cats when my babies were born. They avoided my children like crazy. Never went near them until the children were old enough to carry them around.

My friend told me a similar story. Her aunt lost a toddler by swallowing a penny that he found, they did not know why the baby died until after his death. One thing I found as a choking hazard that I did not think about was when one of my daughters started crawling and went straight to my dog's dish and started putting all the kibble in her mouth. Scared the heck out of me!

Oh my goodness, I had almost the same experience except it was cat kibble. I guess when it encountered the moistness in her mouth, it swelled up enough she choked on it. I grabbed her and thumped her on the back, then did the heimlich maneuver but she was still choking. I called 911 and I could hear the sirens before I even hung up the phone. Emergency vehicles blocked our street and the firefighters burst in the door without knocking, grabbed her out of my arms, flipped her upside down and started working on her. She was blue by this time. Hearing her finally start to cough after they cleared her airway was like hearing her cry for the first time. I am so grateful to those EMT's and firefighters - without them my story might have ended very differently.

 

[chicken danz]

I've read where the things that got blamed on cats were most likely crib death. People just weren't aware of it. And yes a cat would love snuggling a baby so it's natural they'd get blamed.
I had quite the busy day. I had to rig up some temporary quarters for baby ducks. I still have lots that haven't hatched yet. May not at this point. I failed to check my water bucket and it was low so my humidity dipped some. I had a bunch of chicks hatch as well so this house is a mega of cheeping and chirping. I had to clean out the goose cages cause they reeked too while I was moving chicks around to make room.
I got some temp information from Dr. Josie chick today. K state identified a bacteria that they believe may have caused my birds' sickness. We decided not to go on with more cultures to see what the bacteria responded to since I have been pleased with the tylan results. The necropsy isn't complete yet but it will be soon. He said it could have come from anywhere but most likely migratory birds. I was quite pleased to hear the word bacteria rather than virus. Not that it was a good thing but a bacteria can be killed where a virus can reinfect off spring. So I feel better just believing that I won't have to cull these birds now that they are over the worst. Thank you, Lord!
I did start treating my entire flock as a precautionary though. It didn't spread outside of the one pen but I wanted to be sure all the birds are protected against it. It took me hours to mix medication and give some to each pen. Sure would have been a lot easier to have a building with a central water system and treat them all at once. Maybe someday!

 

[HEChicken]

Ahhhhhh!!!!! Ladies!!!!! I need to sleep at night still!!!!

I don't plan on the baby sleeping anywhere the cats can get to her because I am worried about that. Our cats are very need and I can seem them viewing a sleeping baby as a wonderful tiny heater to snuggle up to! We have one young color point named Pippa that desperately wants into the nursery and I am sure she would have a napping hayday in there with the swing, bouncer, crib, bassinet and glider. She LOVES to sleep in things like that.

I am equally paranoid of choking on stuff. DH tends to leave change in his pants pockets then when he puts them in the hamper a coin will fall out on the floor so he has been getting berated about picking up his change and putting it in a safe place. They say anything that will fit inside a paper towel roll is a choking hazard. Yikes!

When I was really little and just starting crawling I used to like to sit in the bathroom and watch my dad shave before he went to work. One morning after he left I fished the thrown away end of the razor blade out of the trash and put it in my mouth. Evidently it got stuck in my cheek and sliced my gums all up and blood was pouring out my mouth. My mom about had an aneursym and my dad rushed home from work and managed to fish it back out. The things kids do!

Now see there's your first mistake. There IS no sleep after baby

Seriously, there was some sleep deprivation when my kids were newborns but it wasn't as bad as people make out - I was quite used to going without sleep anyway. I did co-sleep though as it was the best way to nurse in the middle of the night without having to come all the way awake every time. That's another thing that goes in cycles. First co-sleeping is blamed for crib death, and next thing you know, they're saying it prevents it.

Oh - that razor thing brings chills - so glad it didn't turn out worse.

I got some temp information from Dr. Josie chick today. K state identified a bacteria that they believe may have caused my birds' sickness. We decided not to go on with more cultures to see what the bacteria responded to since I have been pleased with the tylan results. The necropsy isn't complete yet but it will be soon. He said it could have come from anywhere but most likely migratory birds. I was quite pleased to hear the word bacteria rather than virus. Not that it was a good thing but a bacteria can be killed where a virus can reinfect off spring. So I feel better just believing that I won't have to cull these birds now that they are over the worst. Thank you, Lord!
I did start treating my entire flock as a precautionary though. It didn't spread outside of the one pen but I wanted to be sure all the birds are protected against it. It took me hours to mix medication and give some to each pen. Sure would have been a lot easier to have a building with a central water system and treat them all at once. Maybe someday!

I'm glad to hear you got some answers.

 

[chicken danz]

I'll know more later. Right now I am just happy to resume some plans and not worry about them doing okay.
After being disappointed that the local fencing guy was no longer doing it, I made contact with a person today who will come down tomorrow to do an estimate for my front fencing if it rains. It actually sounds like it might work. He would allow me to purchase my own wire and such so I could save some money. I have no idea what kind of labor he will charge but at least it is something. He said he will call me tomorrow. I would feel so much better about my birds and my dogs just knowing they couldn't get in the road.

 

[sharol]

When my daughter was born in 1975, breastfeeding was a rarity. I had lots of support from my LeLeche group and from my pediatrician, though. I started bringing my daughter to bed with me when the exhaustion overwhelmed me when she was about a week old. Best decision I ever made. Everybody got more sleep. Now doctors are saying that in many cases it is the right thing to do. Times change.

I also found out that I did better when I parented by the seat of my pants. I got in trouble every time I read a book that seemed to have good ideas.

Choking hazards won't be a problem for you for a few months anyway, so you should have plenty of time to train him. Babies, once they are crawling, will put anything in their mouths.

Good luck with the baby. Just don't expect to sleep much for a while.

Ahhhhhh!!!!! Ladies!!!!! I need to sleep at night still!!!!

I don't plan on the baby sleeping anywhere the cats can get to her because I am worried about that. Our cats are very need and I can seem them viewing a sleeping baby as a wonderful tiny heater to snuggle up to! We have one young color point named Pippa that desperately wants into the nursery and I am sure she would have a napping hayday in there with the swing, bouncer, crib, bassinet and glider. She LOVES to sleep in things like that.

I am equally paranoid of choking on stuff. DH tends to leave change in his pants pockets then when he puts them in the hamper a coin will fall out on the floor so he has been getting berated about picking up his change and putting it in a safe place. They say anything that will fit inside a paper towel roll is a choking hazard. Yikes!

When I was really little and just starting crawling I used to like to sit in the bathroom and watch my dad shave before he went to work. One morning after he left I fished the thrown away end of the razor blade out of the trash and put it in my mouth. Evidently it got stuck in my cheek and sliced my gums all up and blood was pouring out my mouth. My mom about had an aneursym and my dad rushed home from work and managed to fish it back out. The things kids do!

 

[JosieChick]

Poor kitties, I could see my cats loving the warm baby and her soft clothes a bit too much! I am glad your birds are doing better and that you may have found a fence guy! That first estimate seems really high to me, your front property doesn't seem that long. I am amazed at the variety of pricing you can get from different people for the same job.

I've read where the things that got blamed on cats were most likely crib death. People just weren't aware of it. And yes a cat would love snuggling a baby so it's natural they'd get blamed.
I had quite the busy day. I had to rig up some temporary quarters for baby ducks. I still have lots that haven't hatched yet. May not at this point. I failed to check my water bucket and it was low so my humidity dipped some. I had a bunch of chicks hatch as well so this house is a mega of cheeping and chirping. I had to clean out the goose cages cause they reeked too while I was moving chicks around to make room.
I got some temp information from Dr. Josie chick today. K state identified a bacteria that they believe may have caused my birds' sickness. We decided not to go on with more cultures to see what the bacteria responded to since I have been pleased with the tylan results. The necropsy isn't complete yet but it will be soon. He said it could have come from anywhere but most likely migratory birds. I was quite pleased to hear the word bacteria rather than virus. Not that it was a good thing but a bacteria can be killed where a virus can reinfect off spring. So I feel better just believing that I won't have to cull these birds now that they are over the worst. Thank you, Lord!
I did start treating my entire flock as a precautionary though. It didn't spread outside of the one pen but I wanted to be sure all the birds are protected against it. It took me hours to mix medication and give some to each pen. Sure would have been a lot easier to have a building with a central water system and treat them all at once. Maybe someday!

Oh I know there is NO sleep after the baby! I would like to get as much shut eye as possible now before she gets here!! I will be glad to have her right next to me in a bassinet and I can just reach over to get her to nurse so I don't have to get up and haul into the other room. Besides that I do think it is good for babies to be really close when they are super little. There are a lot of physiological benefits to co sleeping and breastfeeding. It is interesting though that co sleeping and bottle feeding do not yield the same results and can actually endanger the baby because of the way mom holds the baby differently than a mom who breast feeds.

Now see there's your first mistake. There IS no sleep after baby

Seriously, there was some sleep deprivation when my kids were newborns but it wasn't as bad as people make out - I was quite used to going without sleep anyway. I did co-sleep though as it was the best way to nurse in the middle of the night without having to come all the way awake every time. That's another thing that goes in cycles. First co-sleeping is blamed for crib death, and next thing you know, they're saying it prevents it.

Oh - that razor thing brings chills - so glad it didn't turn out worse.

I'm glad to hear you got some answers.

It is funny how much stuff has changed. Doctors and pediatricians really push to have moms breastfeed now and discourage formula. I would have breast fed anyway but a lot of women don't or also don't do it for as long as they should. The CDC just released a statement the other day encouraging parents to wait until babies are at least six months of age before introducing solid foods because of an alarming increase in choking deaths in babies who are given solids too early! There is also a poster up at the doctors office from the March of Dimes encouraging women to wait until at least 39 weeks to be induced or have their baby in general (elective c section) if they are having a healthy, normal pregnancy. Pretty sad that we have to be educated with things that seem like such common sense.

When my daughter was born in 1975, breastfeeding was a rarity. I had lots of support from my LeLeche group and from my pediatrician, though. I started bringing my daughter to bed with me when the exhaustion overwhelmed me when she was about a week old. Best decision I ever made. Everybody got more sleep. Now doctors are saying that in many cases it is the right thing to do. Times change.

I also found out that I did better when I parented by the seat of my pants. I got in trouble every time I read a book that seemed to have good ideas.

Choking hazards won't be a problem for you for a few months anyway, so you should have plenty of time to train him. Babies, once they are crawling, will put anything in their mouths.

Good luck with the baby. Just don't expect to sleep much for a while.

 

[tweetybaby2005]

Poor kitties, I could see my cats loving the warm baby and her soft clothes a bit too much! I am glad your birds are doing better and that you may have found a fence guy! That first estimate seems really high to me, your front property doesn't seem that long. I am amazed at the variety of pricing you can get from different people for the same job. 
Oh I know there is NO sleep after the baby! I would like to get as much shut eye as possible now before she gets here!! I will be glad to have her right next to me in a bassinet and I can just reach over to get her to nurse so I don't have to get up and haul into the other room. Besides that I do think it is good for babies to be really close when they are super little. There are a lot of physiological benefits to co sleeping and breastfeeding. It is interesting though that co sleeping and bottle feeding do not yield the same results and can actually endanger the baby because of the way mom holds the baby differently than a mom who breast feeds. 
It is funny how much stuff has changed. Doctors and pediatricians really push to have moms breastfeed now and discourage formula. I would have breast fed anyway but a lot of women don't or also don't do it for as long as they should. The CDC just released a statement the other day encouraging parents to wait until babies are at least six months of age before introducing solid foods because of an alarming increase in choking deaths in babies who are given solids too early! There is also a poster up at the doctors office from the March of Dimes encouraging women to wait until at least 39 weeks to be induced or have their baby in general (elective c section) if they are having a healthy, normal pregnancy. Pretty sad that we have to be educated with things that seem like such common sense. 

Josie, on the nursing side of thing... no one told me it was difficult and I thought it just came naturally. I was so wrong. I ended up didn't nurse my daughter and I felt horribly gulity of it. When I was pg with my son, I did lots of research and it helped tremendously. I still wasn't able to nurse him but I had a backup plan. I pumped for him for 9 months and had so much extra that I filled up a full chest freezer. My son ended up drinking every drop of it for 2 yrs. The moral of the story is, don't give up. There is hope. I found out that my son had a very small mouth, tight jaw and a short tissue connecting his tongue so basically made him impossible to nurse. I'm glad that my research and persistent paid off.

Hope you have a smooth delivery. Whoever said to listen to yourself and heart was definitely right. There will always be well meaning people who will give out advises without being asked.

Kuan

 

[sharol]

My DD had no solids until 6 months because I have lots of food allergies, and at the time there was one school of thought that early food introduction could lead to later allergies. She was also late, and when I went in for my last (as it turned out) weekly checkup, my doctor who was old world German offered to induce me on Saturday since he was going out of town for a week on Monday. I asked him what was best for the baby, and he said, "ze baby will come when ze baby will come." I told him we would wait for labor to come naturally (I went into labor 2 hours later). I was very lucky to have forward looking doctors (ob gyn and pediatrician) who would support what I wanted. There was huge sign on my dd crib that said NO LIQUIDS not even water. I was so lucky.

Last fall my 37 year old daughter had her second child at home, with a midwife, into water. (he was 10 lbs 4 oz) I guess stubbornness runs in the family.