Consolidated Kansas

[chicken danz]

Oh holy mother of all! I got lost! I got the dog stuff but lost it at pig stuff lmbo. I'm gonna have to sit down and think this out. Or maybe have my brainy daughter help.
So I only need two products for the worming of my chicken and pigs? Can my ducks drink the same water they all roam around the yard together. I can split them up if I need to. If I can get them all in one shot that would be awesome. The pigs worry me because they are jerks and won't sit still. I may have to get the squeeze shoot out. I have all my animals just running around together. Is that a bad thing? I'm wondering if they are passing worms around. And once I worm what do I do to kill the ones on the ground?
The questions never end. Maybe I'm over thinking!
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Actually you only need one product. You can get by with Ivermectin or febendazole either one for both the pig and the chickens. Chickens don't usually develop Cecal or capillary worms but if you have turkey or peafowl or maybe pheasant they do get these worms. So for the person with chickens and ducks but not other fowl, the ivermectin will get all the other worms the chickens will get. This also won't hurt ducks. I have ducks that get in treated chicken water in my building all the time and they do fine with it. Just be sure they don't spill and splash it all out. The advantage to the pigs and febendazole is that you can put it in water or feed rather than inject it. However pigs will dump the water and dig through the feed unless it is in controlled water or feed dispensers. So it's possible they won't get the right dose that way. And if you have several it could be a nightmare trying to figure out how much to use.
I'd probably choose ivermectin for ease of use. Yeah if your pigs aren't very nice you'd probably have to use a shoot or a strong helper to give shots.
And no it's not bad for animals to run together. Most worms and internal parasites that infect one class and order won't infect another. So to be clearer worms that affect birds will not infect pigs. And worms that infect pigs will not infect humans. With the exception of a few like hookworm which would be killed by the dewormer. Every species can get round worm for instance but the round worm a dog, or chicken might have is not the same kind that could affect humans.
Again it's not bad for animals to run together and they can have a very symbiotic relationship to help each other out. But the key to it being successful is to keep your animals in good physical condition. Ridding them of worms and parasites is the first step in keeping them healthy. There is no way to keep the ground totally free of parasites. Good management of livestock can help, but they are brought in by earthworms and in wild bird poop.

Posted by Plinky
I've never had one and never hope to. From what I've read I don't think their chances are good at all, because by the time they lay it they are already too infected.

 

[turboscooby07]

Hey all havent been on in a while. Our hens are laying and the eggs just keep coming. Its great. And all my frienda love our eggs! On a sad note my pigs got out yesterday and the neighbor shot one for ruining her flowers! She wounded it and let it sit in the yard and suffer for six hours untill i got home and could put her to rest. Not a good day for the family. I have spoke with the sherrif and have grounds for a criminal animal abuse case. I dont want to do that. I offered to pay for all damages but they wont take money. The husband is very sorry his wife has done this. I have had their cows on my land multiple times and never once thought of shooting one. I am needing some advise on how to handle this

 

[Dani4Hedgies]

Turbo,
I would press animal cruelty charges on the wife as there was no call for any of this then to let the poor animal suffer and leave for you to find is wrong.

 

[Plinky]

Turbo, press charges. That's just ridiculous. Especially from one animal owner to another. Things happen. Animals get out. Pigs root. Good heavens!

 

[HEChicken]

Turbo, I am so sorry about what happened and especially the suffering your pig endured.

I don't have any advice as to what to do. It is tricky when it is neighbors. Press charges and you are likely to anger the neighbors even more - who knows what they are capable of? As hard as it can be sometimes to take the high road and refrain from retaliation, when it comes to people with whom you share a fence line, sometimes that is just what you have to do. At least the husband sounds reasonable. Perhaps you can deal directly with him and hope he has enough influence to talk his wife down. Point out the damage his cows have done on your property. Stay calm and reasonable and maybe this situation can be turned around.

I've dealt with bad neighbors and lost sleep over worry about what they might do to my property or animals out of vengeance. Neighborly relations have to be among the most challenging to handle. Good luck and please stop back by to let us know how this situation resolves.

 

[Trish44]

Turbo that's just sad & awful anyone would make an animal suffer like that. Flowers can be replaced, but an animal like that not so easily. It is hard dealing with neighbors & animals. I would hate to think of my neighbors shooting my sheep for getting out & eating their gardens or something. They do manage to escape every so often when I have them out in the yard. So far they have been pretty good about it, but we plan to replace the fence on the east side before too long, that is where they escape from. You for sure don't want to start a feud with them that goes on & on. I have a friend that has been dealing with that for several years & she has had to hire an attorney & take it to civil court. Even with that it is dragging on forever. That can get really expensive & doesn't make for good neighbor relations.

I have a darned sneaky predator/predators that is snatching my birds in broad daylight, grrrr. I have lost two hens so far & two female ducks, it really makes me angry & they're getting them under the noses of my two Great Pyrenees. I think they're most likely out behind my garage or through the fence I put up to keep the sheep from a certain area but the chickens can still fit through. I need to put up some other kind of fence there but I just don't have time right now. I have kept my ducks in most of the time lately, which isn't making them happy but better happy than dead. I don't know what to do about the hens because there are 39 birds in that main coop & I don't want to shut them in all the time. Last night we had coyotes yipping right outside the fence line all night long, the dogs were having a fit.

 

[Plinky]

Just to let everyone know...YAY....our Leghorn that laid the weird, possibly lash egg thing a few days ago laid a perfect egg today! I've been giving all four chickens immune boosting stuff- yogurt, turmeric, garlic, herbs. Got our fingers crossed it was a one off thing. She seems perfectly healthy. The only thing is that maybe she is standing on one leg or the other instead of both. Could it be that whatever it is/was has affected her feet or joints? Also Plinky the brahma seems much perkier. Still does weird stuff that make it seem like she cannot see well, but much better.

 

[lizzyGSR]

Just to let everyone know...YAY....our Leghorn that laid the weird, possibly lash egg thing a few days ago laid a perfect egg today! I've been giving all four chickens immune boosting stuff- yogurt, turmeric, garlic, herbs. Got our fingers crossed it was a one off thing. She seems perfectly healthy. The only thing is that maybe she is standing on one leg or the other instead of both. Could it be that whatever it is/was has affected her feet or joints? Also Plinky the brahma seems much perkier. Still does weird stuff that make it seem like she cannot see well, but much better.

Good news! Yay!

I had one bird lay an incredibly small egg a few days ago... probably about the size of a nickel. I cracked it open today and discovered my first yolk-less egg. WEIRD!

 

[ladyj02]

Hello Kansas neighbors! Quick question. Does anyone near Topeka have any Silkie chicks available? I'm looking for just a few of them.

Thank you!

 

[chicken danz]

Just to let everyone know...YAY....our Leghorn that laid the weird, possibly lash egg thing a few days ago laid a perfect egg today! I've been giving all four chickens immune boosting stuff- yogurt, turmeric, garlic, herbs. Got our fingers crossed it was a one off thing. She seems perfectly healthy. The only thing is that maybe she is standing on one leg or the other instead of both. Could it be that whatever it is/was has affected her feet or joints? Also Plinky the brahma seems much perkier. Still does weird stuff that make it seem like she cannot see well, but much better.

I'm glad she is back to normal.

Good news! Yay!

I had one bird lay an incredibly small egg a few days ago... probably about the size of a nickel. I cracked it open today and discovered my first yolk-less egg. WEIRD!

Must have another new layer in your group. Not unusual. When my mother was still alive I would give her all those type eggs. They will dry out in a short time so they'll just be a shell. She used to use them in tiny artificial bird nests for decorations.
I've been so busy I haven't even had time to read posts. Spring and fall seem to be that way every year. I hate it!! I've got a lot to do today as well. I was gone most of the day yesterday so today is really a catch up and prep day. I plan to butcher some tomorrow and do some more sorting.
Love the weather though!