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Rosie-It sounds like Fred is agreeing to go a little bigger than what he was going to do. I STILL think you need to talk him into some skylights for the thing. We didn't put any in the shop, and have regretted it ever since. We did put them in the new barn and it makes all the in difference in the world. If it's roof leaks he is worried about, it is not a problem. It's really no more apt to leak than any otther part of the roof. You could make the argument that with skylights you need a lot less in light fixtures, wiring and don't need lights at all during the day. Without them, you will need to run the lights, even during the day any time you are in there. It's more expensive to put in windows than it is to put in skylights. I know how he hates electric bills. I'm so glad you are happy about the plans.

Danz-My thoughts and parayers will be with you and your parents. Did you check with the Rusty Barn company? Mike did a lot of checking around and they were BY FAR the cheapest. If they are going to be in your area they will get to you right away. If they aren't in the area it might take a while longer, and NO ONE is any faster than them. They can build it "no frills" or you can order a lot of bells and whistles. We did the "no frills" version, then add the things we want ourselves. Oh, and I've been meaning to tell you I have had zero fertility on my seramas. I am planning to turn them loose and see what happens. In Malaysia many of these chickens are free, wild birds. That is their ancestry. Mike was there on a job for a while and he remembers seeing them wild. They are the only birds I have that look at the door when I open it, make a calculation in their head and then fly like a sparrow out the door! I think they would be a lot happier in a large pen or free range. Maybe they will raise a few chicks of their own if they are free and happy.

Hawkeye-It was a beautiful day. Did you get your wood dried out for your coop?

Rittert-so sorry about the landlord problems. It doesn't sound like a very workable situation. You've had nothing but problems over there from the git-go.

I've had a GREAT day today. My oldest son who will be starting med school this summer has decided to go to KU med school. He has already been accepted. I'm so glad he will be close enough that we will be able to visit him when he has a breather in his schedule. He will be graduating in May from KSU with a degree in mechanical engineering with the nuclear option as well as all his pre-med requirements. At this time it's his intention to be a radiation oncologist.

AND my step son, who I feel is the same as one of my own has been accepted into 3 colleges, but he was notified that he has received a $48,000 academic scholarship to the college he preferred out of the 3. He will be majoring in athletic training, trying out for football, doing ROTC as well as officer training. He joined the national guard right out of high school, and took a year off from college to do boot camp and other training. He is going to be one busy boy.
 
Danz - so sorry about your parents but glad you are able to have this time with them compared to when you lived states away from them. They are lucky to have you there to take such good care of them.

Rittert - wow, I'd be venting too. Can you explain a little more about your landlord situation? At first I was thinking that you rented the land to keep your birds on, but now it sounds like part of the deal is that you also take care of the landlord's operation? Am I just reading that wrong? Is it a case where you could find somewhere different to move YOUR operation?

Ivy - congrats on your sons' successes! I wish I could talk DD in KU Med School but she is pretty determined to get far away from Kansas to see another part of the country so is looking at Med Schools much further afield
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. I do understand really - I've lived several countries and multiple regions in each different country, while she has lived in KS since she was 5, so wants to broaden her horizons. Still, it will be a sad day when she leaves for that distant college.

I haven't kept Seramas (have never even seen one!) but if I'm remembering correctly, they make good broodies and mothers, so perhaps letting them take care of matters themselves is a good idea. Keep us posted!

Checoukan - congrats on the barn. Yes, definitely take before and after pics - once that new barn is in place, it will be hard to remember what it used to look like and then you'll love to go back and look at the original photos.

Hawkeye - looking forward to hearing about progress on your mini-coop.
 
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I'll jump on Ivy's band wagon about the sky lights, Rosie! If you were considering the clear skylight panels-- DO it! It doesn't make it any hotter in there during the day at all. It's so filtered, it doesn't create heat. But you can SEE during the day. On an overcast day, I still have to turn on all the lights in there... I can't imagine having a dark barn and having to turn the lights on during the day, that would be a PITA. I believe we have the panels only on one side of our roof. If you want, I can take a picture of our roof on the barn?? Let me know if you want to see what it looks like. We ordered a white roof to help reflect light and heat away from the barn interior. But honestly, when you get the height and length-- the barn stays cool anyway just because of it's size. I can leave the doors open on either end and get a pretty nice breeze thru on those 110+ melting hot days and it's still nice in the barn! So like I said-- I dont think our skylight panels really impact the coolness of the barn. The roof doesn't leak, either... Ivy suggested that, not sure why that might be an issue since it's all built the same as any other panel. Our barn is now 12 years old.

Ivy-- congrats on your boy's admittance! That is really fabulous! I'm sure they are really excited that it's working out how they hoped it would. Sounds like a win-win for you too.
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Whats up with your Serama roo's not doing their job? I'm about ready to pull my hair out. My crazy cockerel-- who is almost 9 months, BTW-- is now grabbing the hens but not jumping on them!?!?! He just grabs them and stands next to them. I GIVE up!! I guess I will have no babies.
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HEChicken... I'm bummed. I had my wood all set out to dry yesterday and it DID dry. Well, now today it's supposed to rain and the clouds are rolling in. :( I think I'm going to run out there quick and go drag my wood out to the barn to keep it dry so the next nice day, I can get back to work. I'm not looking forward to my yard being a muddy mess again. So I'm kind of bummed today. I'm the person that I'm chomping at the bit to be outside and work my yard or have a project and I can't stand being idle in here. I have a knitting project someone commissioned from me and i really should just try to knock that out today instead... but knitting is NOT what I had in mind. Sigh.
 
Ivy, I have no idea why those silly birds aren't fertile. That's crazy. My initial ones were kept in small cages in the basement and they laid like crazy and hatched many. Maybe they would do better with a little fresh air for a while. I have my whites separated in a little cage and they quit laying so it will be interesting to see if they are fertile when they do. I'm not even hatching right now cause there are so many.I have maybe 20 due to hatch today or so and at least another 30 due in the next 10 days. I haven't called Rusty barn yet. I was honestly afraid they wouldn't want to travel this far.
Hawkeye I priced what I wanted at Sutherlands and it's a third of the price but I was sure hoping not to have to build my own. I have way too many other projects going on to get that done quickly.
Patricia I am very excited about the eggs. If I don't have any hatches I sure hope to later. I'd be glad to do some more trading. Do you think the geese will run with the ducks when they are older? I guess I need to figure out even more pens for the future. Will they pick on the chickens? I've never had geese since my previous experiences with them were so lousy so I'm not sure what all to expect. I would like to have them fairly tame and personable.
My sick roo isn't doing as well as I hoped. I've been giving him the batril but he isn't eating or drinking much. DH suggested I put him back out in the pen. I am just afraid he won't recover out there. We've had these stupid birds that just quit eating and drinking when they are put in a cage and he is pretty much one of them. Treating him with antibiotics won't do any good if he isn't getting any nutrition.
I'm selling my Wellsummer hens today. I had no intention of doing so but I got offered a good price for them so I am letting them go. I really love their eggs but since I don't have a roo and I'm needing space I decided to let them go. I guess I'll see how the K-state pullets do and decide later if I want to get more.
I had a guy call while ago that is coming for some button quail. I really hate to have any one down in that nasty messy basement. I had met him a year ago at Orshlems in Ottawa. I guess he just decided to come get some. I might try to make him a deal and sell him a lot more than he asked for. I'm really not doing much with them these days. I may just keep my old ones in the long run.They are so cute but I want them out of the house. I'm really sick of smelling birds in here. Just having the baby chicks is about more than I can stand.
And then I have this one loan duck that swears I'm it's mother. It sits on my lap while I type and while I'm watching TV in the evening. Otherwise it jumps and screams until I take it out of it's bin.
I ordered a new rug for my dining room yesterday. I have been looking at one that was purple and beige for about a year. I loved it.Perfect design and colors. I got to checking the color of my purple accent wall and decided the tone might not be quite right. It's so hard to tell on monitors. This rug is about $1000. Anyway I found one identical but it was beige tones. I decided it would look fairly nice although not picking up the purple color I really wanted. It was about $300 so I decided to just go ahead and order it. I guess if it looks awful I can put it in a bedroom or something. I have new hardwood to put in the kitchen and dining room which has been sitting there for 3 years. I thought maybe if I got my rug purchased I'd be more proactive in pushing to get my hardwood in. I have the equipment to do it just not the back it takes for all the bending. If I trip over a big rug long enough maybe I'll become so unbearable to live with DH will finally agree to help me get this in there. I have to rip out one layer of the subfloor before I can put it down and that is where I really need his help. I don't want to be walking around on rough wood for very long.
 
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Been lurking on website....finally brave enough to write!
We are in Wichita....anxiously awaiting chick arrival....Brand new to this whole chicken thing! Can hardly wait to join the fun! Seeing all the pictures of the coops has really inspired us...We have an awesome chicken notebook with lists and pictures of our ideas we have gathered from BYC.
Yea....glad we found this website
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Danz, the cost of the kit for the barn at Sutherlands is definitely cheaper than anywhere else. Did you ask them how much it costs for THEM to build it for you? They weren't going to charge us that much more to build it-- that might be the cheapest route?

ESP Chickens- another Wichita peep! :) Glad to have you and
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and to the Kansas thread!! When are you chicks due to arrive? Who did you order them from? I ordered my chicks last year from Meyer's Hatchery.

And here's the picture of my roof for Rosie... You can see the skylights are just slim panels, but they make a BIG impact! I'm pretty sure they are only on this side and not the other. I took this pic this morning (just now)-- sheesh, can you all see how grey and nasty it's getting out there!? Yuck! More rain!
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(you can see the flood lights that light up the gate area for the times we drive thru at night into the pasture and then there is a flood light on the front that automatically comes on at dusk. Then we have the inside of the barn lit up like a runway-- there are lights EVERYwhere. My DH wired it and went crazy. We also put in a ton of outlets and then there is a water spigot in there so I can put water in buckets in the winter, or run a hose to the stalls... whatever.
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Glad you decided to join us. Lots of good people here, with lots, and lots of information. Don't be afraid to ask a question, someone will have an answer if not we will put are heads together and figure it out.
 
yeah hawkeye, looks good. I am going to have to work on DH some more. I don't know why he is against the skylights. Maybe if I mention that if I had skylights, then I would not have to have the barn lights on all the time like I am now!! He made a comment about that yesterday, I just looked at him. Cours he won't say to much, just grumble. He is a goof!
 
Welcome ESP chickens! You should feel free to jump right in. We are always happy to include some new people. And we've always got answers and opinions.
Nice building Hawkeye. I envy you. I didn't ask Sutherlands a building price. I just got the estimate for the building. We have one in Emporia so that's pretty close. I'd like them to have one of those Friends of the Family days so I could get 15% off. Now that would make me more inclined to buy from them for sure.
Oh and I just hatched 6 baby ducks from 6 eggs. 100% fertility. That means I can start making some money soon.Yipee
 
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yeah hawkeye, looks good. I am going to have to work on DH some more. I don't know why he is against the skylights. Maybe if I mention that if I had skylights, then I would not have to have the barn lights on all the time like I am now!! He made a comment about that yesterday, I just looked at him. Cours he won't say to much, just grumble. He is a goof!

Sounds like a plan! I'm a little baffled why he wouldn't want them. Just keep working on him, I'm pretty sure they don't cost anything extra?? This is your working barn, right? You'll be in there the most? I'd say you should have the majority rule on this one.
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