Coping with Blackhead

[casportpony]

I think that says that the two drugs can be used together for prevention, amprolium for coccidiosis, carbasone for blackhead.

-Kathy

 

[retlaw]

http://fluffybottomsfarm.blogspot.ca/2012/07/blackhead-in-turkey.html

Treatment:
The best treatment for the disease, emetryl, is no longer available on the market and is now illegal because it was found to be carcinogenic. So now the treatment seems to be hit or miss for some people. What I have found is treating with Metronidazole seems to be the best treatment at this time. You can get metronidazole from your veterinarian, it is a very common small animal drug or you can try your local pet store that carries fish supplies. Look for a product called Fish Zole, the active ingredient should be metronidazole. The dose is 50mg/kg by mouth once daily for 5 days. The fish zole comes as a 250mg tablet, so to dose the birds you will need to weigh your birds and figure out the dose to determine how much to give. As a reference point a 10lb bird will get 1 tablet. If you are not sure how to do the calculations you can email me your bird’s weight and I will calculate it for you or call your veterinarian and they can calculate the dose for you. Corid (amprolium), which is commonly used for prevention of coccidia can also be added to the drinking water to help treat and prevent blackhead. Some medicated turkey feeds already have powdered amprolium mixed in. It comes as Amprol 128 which is Amprolium 20% soluble powder. This should be able to be found OTC, and is approved for use in growing chickens, turkey and laying hens. There is no meat or egg withdrawal when used as directed. If you cannot find this product you may be able to get the liquid form (9.6% solution) and the dose is 2ml/gallon of water for 5 days. You may need to add some sugar to the water as it is unpalatable to some animals.

 

[casportpony]

http://www.kepro.nl/catalogus/product-3.html?ref=adv&ingredient=49&animal=0&type=0&cat=0

Amprolium 250 wsp is a concentrated powder of Amprolium HCl, water-soluble for use in drinking water of poultry, calves, lambs, young goats, cattle and sheep. It is used as a preventive or therapeutic agent against Eimeria infections in poultry, especially E. tenella, E. necatrix, E. acervulina and E. praecox. It is effective against other protozoal infections like Histomoniasis (Blackhead) in turkeys and poultry; against coccidiosis in calves, sheep, goats and pigs; against amaebiasis in various species.

That's interesting, but I still don't think it's true. You are very resourceful, see if you can find something published by the AAAP.

-Kathy

 

[retlaw]

so here it looks like they use it as a preventative,
this is starting to hurt my head.

http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/animaldrugsatfda/details.cfm?dn=118-507

558.55 Amprolium.
Specifications: Type A medicated articles: 25 percent.
Conditions of use:
Turkeys
Amount: 113.5 to 227 (0.0125 percent to 0.025 percent) grams Amprolium per ton of feed in combination with Carbarsone 227 to 340.5 grams per ton.
Indications: Aid in prevention of coccidiosis (Eimeria adenoeides, E. meleagrimitis, and E. gallopavonis) and blackhead.
Limitations: Feed continuously 2 weeks before coccidiosis and blackhead are expected and continue as long as prevention is needed. Withdraw 5 days before slaughter. Use as sole source of amprolium and organic arsenic. Do not use as a treatment for outbreaks of coccidiosis. Do not use in Type B or Type C medicated feeds containing bentonite.

 

[casportpony]

Retlaw, you sure know how to search! But I'd really like to see something published by a vet.

-Kathy

 

[casportpony]

Carbarsone:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbarsone

-Kathy

 

[casportpony]

My vet recommended something similar to carbarsone as a preventative, it began with n, but I think both are toxic to ducks.

-Kathy

 

[casportpony]

Maybe this is what she recommended:
http://www.bioagrimix.com/medilist/medipolt/docs/11/1187/1187018_coffs.htm

The label below has been edited to reflect the product's use for Poultry. Click on "Full Label" button above to display the full label.​

HISTOSTAT

50
Alpharma
NITARSONE MEDICATED PREMIX 50% W/W
DIN 02247233
FOR FEED MANUFACTURING USE ONLY
ACTIVE INGREDIENT:

Nitarsone (4-nitrophenylarsonic acid) 500 g per kg (50%).

Withdrawal Time: Treated turkeys must not be slaughtered for food for at least five (5) days after the last use of this drug.

WARNING:

1. Treated turkeys must not be slaughtered for food for at least five (5) days after the last use of this drug.
   • Do not feed to laying hens, replacement and breeding turkeys.
     • Keep out of reach of children.
       • In mixing, avoid inhaling dust.
         • Avoid contact of product with skin, eyes and clothing.
           • Wash thoroughly after handling.
             • If swallowed, call a physician, poison control centre, or hospital immediately.

Induce vomiting by giving Ipecac Syrup as directed.

INDICATION:
As an aid in the prevention of blackhead (Histomoniasis) in turkeys.
NOTE:
This product is not effective in preventing blackhead in birds infected more than 4 or 5 days. Signs of blackhead (Histomoniasis) do not appear until 7 to 12 days after birds become infected.

DIRECTIONS FOR USE:

How to mix:
Mix thoroughly before use. Add 375 grams of HISTOSTAT 50 MEDICATED PREMIX to 10-15 kg of ground corn or other carrier and mix. Add this to other feed ingredients to produce one tonne (1000 kg) of complete feed with a final concentration of 187.5 ppm (0.01875%) of nitarsone in finished feed.
How to feed:
Feed continuously as sole ration. Start Histostat

50 medication depending on such factors as record of blackhead occurrence on the farm or in the area, climate and weather, and soil or litter condition. Continue as long as prevention is desired.
CAUTION:

1. Overdosage or lack of water may result in leg weakness or paralysis.
   • Use as the sole source of arsenic.
     • Dangerous for ducks, geese and dogs.
       • Adequate drinking water must be provided near feeders at all times.
         • Early medication is essential to prevent spread of disease.

STORAGE:
Store in a dry place (maximum 70% R.H.) at 15-25° C.
PRODUCT CODE:
560101
ALPHARMA
Animal Health Division
ALPHARMA CANADA CORPORATION
2000 Argentia Road, Plaza IV, Suite 302
Mississauga, Ontario L5N 1W1
NET WEIGHT: 22.7 kg
Reg. Trade Mark of Alpharma Inc. used under License.
Revised 02/17/03
Disclaimer: Every effort has been made to ensure the accuracy of the information published. However, it remains the responsibility of the readers to familiarize themselves with the product information contained on the product label or package insert. Compendium Code No.: 11870180
-Kathy

 

[retlaw]

Most drugs seem to be a "prevention" of blackhead and not a cure.

Getting rid of the cecal worm seems to be a good start in preventing and it looks like most prevention methods are targeting the worm.
No worm no parasite eggs. makes sense.


Here is some info on hot peppers:

http://www.ehow.com/list_5923700_dangers-eating-habanero-pepper_.html

Habaneros are both hot and healthy. Hot peppers of all sorts are high in minerals and Vitamins C and A. Capsaicin kills unwanted bacteria and intestinal parasites, and some people use hot peppers and powders to "flush" their bowels and cleanse their digestive track.

CURING WITH CAYENNA

http://www.whale.to/a/cayenne.html
http://www.amazon.com/Curing-With-Cayenne-Unpublished-Greatest/dp/B0006FDVH8

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[casportpony]

Metronidazole *and* a wormer like fenbendazole or albendazole will cure a bird with blackhead, but often they will need yet another drug to treat a secondary infection like e.Coli. I have noticed that the risk of them getting sick is greatest from hatch to 9 months of age, after that, they seem to do okay.

-Kathy