Coronavirus, Covid 19 Discussion and How It Has Affected Your Daily Life Chat Thread

[Pasha838]

Covid acts in a strange and very selective way. Here in Russia some vaccines were produced, and there was vaccination, everyone was obliged to be vaccinated, and those who refused had a number of restrictions (in particular, they were forbidden to be in some public places). I wanted to get vaccinated, but it took so long to get ready (I live in a village in the forest with goats, ducks and geese, I have a lot of homework and it is extremely difficult for me to leave the village).
In general, while I was going, two or three years had passed and the mandatory vaccination was canceled. And now I don't even know if I should get vaccinated or not. So it ended in nothing, I didn’t go anywhere and, I suspect, it will be another two or three years before I go anywhere from the village.
I just can't leave - here you have to constantly graze the goats, feed the geese, work in the garden ... I can only leave in the winter. and even then not for long, and in winter I usually sleep and I'm too lazy to go somewhere.

At the same time, my neighbor, with whom I constantly talked, died of covid. Somehow, for some reason, I did not get infected from him. Or I got infected, but the disease was somehow asymptomatic and I did not notice it.
My parents are middle-aged people, but for some reason this didn’t affect them either. Covid acts in a strange and very selective way, some get sick, and for some reason they either don’t get sick, or I don’t know what’s going on.

In theory, I should go and finally get vaccinated, but I'm so busy that this is a whole problem. When I have free time, I don’t want to go anywhere at all, I either sit at the computer and chat on the Internet, or lie down on the sofa and sleep.

The state gives the vaccine for free, but I'm too lazy to even get to the clinic and get vaccinated. In other words, I’m generally some kind of peculiar person, apparently, as an unemployed person I can temporarily receive a small allowance, but 10 years have passed and I still haven’t applied anywhere to receive it. I've been unemployed for 10 years and haven't applied for benefits lol. At the same time, I also practically do not conduct entrepreneurial activity, the only trade that I carry out is the sale of one can of milk to the nearest neighbor, and even then only because he has a small child and they cook porridge for him with milk.

I have a feeling that I am going to get vaccinated only when covid is left far in the past, like the bubbon plague or medieval smallpox.

 

[fuzzi]

Covid acts in a strange and very selective way. Here in Russia some vaccines were produced, and there was vaccination, everyone was obliged to be vaccinated, and those who refused had a number of restrictions (in particular, they were forbidden to be in some public places). I wanted to get vaccinated, but it took so long to get ready (I live in a village in the forest with goats, ducks and geese, I have a lot of homework and it is extremely difficult for me to leave the village).
In general, while I was going, two or three years had passed and the mandatory vaccination was canceled. And now I don't even know if I should get vaccinated or not. So it ended in nothing, I didn’t go anywhere and, I suspect, it will be another two or three years before I go anywhere from the village.
I just can't leave - here you have to constantly graze the goats, feed the geese, work in the garden ... I can only leave in the winter. and even then not for long, and in winter I usually sleep and I'm too lazy to go somewhere.

At the same time, my neighbor, with whom I constantly talked, died of covid. Somehow, for some reason, I did not get infected from him. Or I got infected, but the disease was somehow asymptomatic and I did not notice it.
My parents are middle-aged people, but for some reason this didn’t affect them either. Covid acts in a strange and very selective way, some get sick, and for some reason they either don’t get sick, or I don’t know what’s going on.

In theory, I should go and finally get vaccinated, but I'm so busy that this is a whole problem. When I have free time, I don’t want to go anywhere at all, I either sit at the computer and chat on the Internet, or lie down on the sofa and sleep.

The state gives the vaccine for free, but I'm too lazy to even get to the clinic and get vaccinated. In other words, I’m generally some kind of peculiar person, apparently, as an unemployed person I can temporarily receive a small allowance, but 10 years have passed and I still haven’t applied anywhere to receive it. I've been unemployed for 10 years and haven't applied for benefits lol. At the same time, I also practically do not conduct entrepreneurial activity, the only trade that I carry out is the sale of one can of milk to the nearest neighbor, and even then only because he has a small child and they cook porridge for him with milk.

I have a feeling that I am going to get vaccinated only when covid is left far in the past, like the bubbon plague or medieval smallpox.

Why bother get the shot?

What would be the benefits?

 

[fuzzi]

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[sdm111]

Why bother get the shot?

What would be the benefits?

They're aren't any. It's a false sense of security. I am vaccinated and currently have it

 

[Folly's place]

Most diseases behave this way, because every individual may not get sick. Smallpox and bubonic plague, both terrible, with very high death rates, didn't affect everyone. Same with Ebola, another awful disease with very high death rates.
And vaccines do save many many lives; thinking about smallpox, gone in my lifetime, and happily was vaccinated against it twice before it was eradicated.
Most people who died of C19 weren't vaccinated! I too have had it twice, with vaccines on board. I'm not dead, wasn't in the hospital, a success story, IMO.
Returning to a world without vaccinations would be a nightmare!
Mary

 

[Auntiejessi3]

Most diseases behave this way, because every individual may not get sick. Smallpox and bubonic plague, both terrible, with very high death rates, didn't affect everyone. Same with Ebola, another awful disease with very high death rates.
And vaccines do save many many lives; thinking about smallpox, gone in my lifetime, and happily was vaccinated against it twice before it was eradicated.
Most people who died of C19 weren't vaccinated! I too have had it twice, with vaccines on board. I'm not dead, wasn't in the hospital, a success story, IMO.
Returning to a world without vaccinations would be a nightmare!
Mary

I never got vaccinated, got it 3 times, first time was like the flu for a couple weeks, but never ended up in the hospital or anything, just rested. The second 2 times were much milder, like a simple cold for a few days.

 

[mowin]

Most diseases behave this way, because every individual may not get sick. Smallpox and bubonic plague, both terrible, with very high death rates, didn't affect everyone. Same with Ebola, another awful disease with very high death rates.
And vaccines do save many many lives; thinking about smallpox, gone in my lifetime, and happily was vaccinated against it twice before it was eradicated.
Most people who died of C19 weren't vaccinated! I too have had it twice, with vaccines on board. I'm not dead, wasn't in the hospital, a success story, IMO.
Returning to a world without vaccinations would be a nightmare!
Mary

The several people I knew that supposedly died from COVID were vaxed. Know dozens that are not vaxed, had COVID and all are still here.
I slept next to my wife who had it twice. Never got it. Same with many people I know. My SIL had a drink and a bite from her grandsons food and never got it.
So your " most who died were not vaxed is far from the truth.

 

[Birdinhand]

The several people I knew that supposedly died from COVID were vaxed. Know dozens that are not vaxed, had COVID and all are still here.
I slept next to my wife who had it twice. Never got it. Same with many people I know. My SIL had a drink and a bite from her grandsons food and never got it.
So your " most who died were not vaxed is far from the truth.

I live in ground zero for Covid… just a few miles from the first outbreak in the US. I can say that trying to extrapolate the trends based on personal experience is problematic because the sample size and randomness of our personal connections is but a bunch of coin tosses. A few short years back and refrigerator trucks were lined up outside our local hospitals because the morgues were overflowing. My brother in law works as a PA in the ER at one of them, one of the centers where the hard cases got sent. The vast majority of people who died were unvaccinated, I know this based on someone’s summary of tens of thousands of cases and it tracks with the larger statistical analysis of millions of cases. The earliest strains were the most deadly, they prayed more on the elderly by orders of magnitude, vaccinated or not. Of course the bulk of the earliest folks who died did not have access to the vaccine because it wasn’t available yet. The widespread availability of the vaccine coincided with a sudden and dramatic drop in mortality here… it was night and day, no more refrigerator trucks, mask mandates and vaccination mandates gradually were lifted and life has mostly returned to normal, with all its freedoms. Some people had horrible reactions to the vaccines, some of those also had horrible reactions to Covid before getting the vaccine, some have had terrible reactions to both. There are no guarantees. Where the virus lands in our system and where it finds weak points in our individually unique immune system have everything to do with how severe the reaction can be, vaccine or no vaccine. The proteins of both the vaccine and the virus can be terribly hard on some people’s systems while having no effect on others. It is truly mind boggling but to some extent has always been the case with disease and vaccines. Whenever one’s experience challenges the academic explanations, it breeds distrust in authority, and that’s understandable. Questioning authority is courageous and even admirable at times and is sometimes our undoing.

I am a licensed natural medicine health care provider and was mandated by the state to get the vaccine and I resented it and yet I have to admit that after getting Covid twice since vaccination, I only got a very mild version with no lasting effect. I work out of my home and have kids, so protecting my kids from the public and the public from my kids was ultimately necessary. I employed a whole house UVC sterilizer and a treatment room UVC sterilizer back before the CDC determined that even though Covid is a large particle virus that it still fit the definition of being airborne transmitted. Another health care provider friend got Covid, had a horrible lasting reaction, freaked out and got vaccinated and also had a lasting negative reaction to the vaccine. There are no guarantees. I am just so glad that we are back to a point where draconian oppressive mandates are no longer necessary and people are back to having choice in how they approach risk in many instances in their daily lives.

Mandating health care or mandating restrictions to it, is a bad idea in my book and something only justifiable at times of true emergency, and even then is very dicey. 55 million people died during the Spanish flew pandemic. If we had done nothing, a similar mass die off of humans likely would have occurred. How many people did our new, modern, updated response to this pandemic save? We will never know, there aren’t ways of comparing what didn’t happen with what did. That said, I would not be surprised if the vaccine saved 100’s of millions of lives worldwide and from a humanitarian perspective that is a big success. From a human rights perspective, yes, emergency mandates are very tricky indeed.

 

[Folly's place]

Covid killed a lot of people, but is nothing like some diseases that are/ were much worse! Thank God!
And public health mandates are also nothing new, and often also opposed by folks with financial interests rather than saving lives.
Mary

 

[Eggstaticmom]

Covid acts in a strange and very selective way. Here in Russia some vaccines were produced, and there was vaccination, everyone was obliged to be vaccinated, and those who refused had a number of restrictions (in particular, they were forbidden to be in some public places). I wanted to get vaccinated, but it took so long to get ready (I live in a village in the forest with goats, ducks and geese, I have a lot of homework and it is extremely difficult for me to leave the village).
In general, while I was going, two or three years had passed and the mandatory vaccination was canceled. And now I don't even know if I should get vaccinated or not. So it ended in nothing, I didn’t go anywhere and, I suspect, it will be another two or three years before I go anywhere from the village.
I just can't leave - here you have to constantly graze the goats, feed the geese, work in the garden ... I can only leave in the winter. and even then not for long, and in winter I usually sleep and I'm too lazy to go somewhere.

At the same time, my neighbor, with whom I constantly talked, died of covid. Somehow, for some reason, I did not get infected from him. Or I got infected, but the disease was somehow asymptomatic and I did not notice it.
My parents are middle-aged people, but for some reason this didn’t affect them either. Covid acts in a strange and very selective way, some get sick, and for some reason they either don’t get sick, or I don’t know what’s going on.

In theory, I should go and finally get vaccinated, but I'm so busy that this is a whole problem. When I have free time, I don’t want to go anywhere at all, I either sit at the computer and chat on the Internet, or lie down on the sofa and sleep.

The state gives the vaccine for free, but I'm too lazy to even get to the clinic and get vaccinated. In other words, I’m generally some kind of peculiar person, apparently, as an unemployed person I can temporarily receive a small allowance, but 10 years have passed and I still haven’t applied anywhere to receive it. I've been unemployed for 10 years and haven't applied for benefits lol. At the same time, I also practically do not conduct entrepreneurial activity, the only trade that I carry out is the sale of one can of milk to the nearest neighbor, and even then only because he has a small child and they cook porridge for him with milk.

I have a feeling that I am going to get vaccinated only when covid is left far in the past, like the bubbon plague or medieval smallpox.

Please look at the whole picture before making that decision- that shot is the only one I have never had- my family who works in pharmaceuticals as a sales rep couldn’t sell as safe to me and I’ve seen the most strange reactions from friends who received it - there are many non pharmaceuticals supplements that boost your immune system- took me 45 years to learn this but now I am still in awe of what a few good vitamins and diet changes can do!