Coronavirus, Covid 19 Discussion and How It Has Affected Your Daily Life Chat Thread

[ShrekDawg]

You should not be doing the tips or center . You should be doing the sides . So you have 20 sides and you go thru them, then start over. Because if you end up sticking more often you do not want sore fingers.

Thank you!! I read the sides hurt less so I tried that at first but barely got any blood. I’ll try them again though. My fingers are def already a bit sore.

 

[Shadrach]

I have a cousin that just died because the hospital cancelled a procedure. The hospital was full with CV 19 people.

The problem with herd immunity is it over taxes the hospitals ...and people who need medical help for other things are SOL

The medical people are worn out now and getting sick. There is not enough medical staff, ppe or ventilators or places to put them

Yes, I'm aware of that. It's the same in a lot of countries hence my post about where it may have been better to invest the relief packages.

 

[Shadrach]

It's not 10 trillion, it's 2 trillion, 100 billion extra going for healthcare.
We were 22 trillion in debt now 24.
For one there is no $, the US is the most in debt nation on earth. Just print it and borrow it.
Over double the debt of the second most Japan, and over quadruple the third China.

And;
"The United States spends more on health care than any other country in the world, and a large share of that spending comes from the federal government. In 2017, the United States spent about $3.5 trillion, or 18 percent of GDP, on health expenditures – more than twice the average among developed countries."

You should have a better look at the details of the relief package.

 

[Shadrach]

As from Tuesday many of the work restrictions are being lifted by the Spanish government.
This is after a few days of a decline in the rate of infection, which ironically went up again in the most recent figures.
A lot of people here are unsure if they should go to work.
Some are concerned about their health safety and others are not clear about which types of work are now unrestricted.

 

[21hens-incharge]

So long as you or yours aren't the ones caught in the fast burn

X2.

As a high risk person.....thanks Shad but I still have work to do before the time to push daisies.

The pile of horse manure I used to have in the woods took 3-4 months to turn into compost. The ones I have here , well after a year there's very little composting. I wonder why.

Are you turning it? Is it drying out to much? Are you adding any leaves or other stuff to it?

 

[Shadrach]

I was having a discussion with my daughter on this issue this morning.
I fall into the high risk category. Even with adequate health care my chances would not be good if I caught the virus.
I am fortunate in that I'm not a social creature by nature and have been social distancing for the past decade.
But, there are many people with a similar risk factor who are either not so antisocial and who are not fortunate in their living circumstances.
So, what about those people who live in cities and whose retirement life revolves around a close social circle and enjoying the facilities city life can offer?
Are they left with cowering in a small city flat too scared to go out for fear of catching the virus?
One of my friends in such a position wrote to me saying as soon as it was within the law to socialize that is what he would be doing. His view is he didn't work all his life and reach retirement to spend the remainder of his years cowering in a flat on his own while the virus went about it's business.
Bear in mind that even with a vaccine and there is no certainty there will be one, the virus will still be out there. It isn't going to just go away. An effective vaccine may reduce the worst of the effects of the virus but it won't stop people catching it, nor will it stop those who do become infected passing it on to others and some of those others will be in the vulnerable health class.
It seems to get forgotten that when one is born into this world there is no guarantee of survival and human kind like every other creature must take it's chances.
We take chances every day of our lives and think little of it. 40,000 people died from road traffic accidents in the USA last year but we still get in our cars and drive.
Heart disease kills hundreds of thousands and is particualry prevelant in the USA. Does this stop people have that fatty meat based brunch?

 

[21hens-incharge]

I was having a discussion with my daughter on this issue this morning.
I fall into the high risk category. Even with adequate health care my chances would not be good if I caught the virus.
I am fortunate in that I'm not a social creature by nature and have been social distancing for the past decade.
But, there are many people with a similar risk factor who are either not so antisocial and who are not fortunate in their living circumstances.
So, what about those people who live in cities and whose retirement life revolves around a close social circle and enjoying the facilities city life can offer?
Are they left with cowering in a small city flat too scared to go out for fear of catching the virus?
One of my friends in such a position wrote to me saying as soon as it was within the law to socialize that is what he would be doing. His view is he didn't work all his life and reach retirement to spend the remainder of his years cowering in a flat on his own while the virus went about it's business.
Bear in mind that even with a vaccine and there is no certainty there will be one, the virus will still be out there. It isn't going to just go away. An effective vaccine may reduce the worst of the effects of the virus but it won't stop people catching it, nor will it stop those who do become infected passing it on to others and some of those others will be in the vulnerable health class.
It seems to get forgotten that when one is born into this world there is no guarantee of survival and human kind like every other creature must take it's chances.
We take chances every day of our lives and think little of it. 40,000 people died from road traffic accidents in the USA last year but we still get in our cars and drive.
Heart disease kills hundreds of thousands and is particualry prevelant in the USA. Does this stop people have that fatty meat based brunch?

While this is all true and logic says that for every beginning there will be an end.....I will still try very hard to not have my end be on a ventilator or laying in a hallway because there is no room for me.

I wish that kind of end on no one.

 

[Molpet]

I was having a discussion with my daughter on this issue this morning.
I fall into the high risk category. Even with adequate health care my chances would not be good if I caught the virus.
I am fortunate in that I'm not a social creature by nature and have been social distancing for the past decade.
But, there are many people with a similar risk factor who are either not so antisocial and who are not fortunate in their living circumstances.
So, what about those people who live in cities and whose retirement life revolves around a close social circle and enjoying the facilities city life can offer?
Are they left with cowering in a small city flat too scared to go out for fear of catching the virus?
One of my friends in such a position wrote to me saying as soon as it was within the law to socialize that is what he would be doing. His view is he didn't work all his life and reach retirement to spend the remainder of his years cowering in a flat on his own while the virus went about it's business.
Bear in mind that even with a vaccine and there is no certainty there will be one, the virus will still be out there. It isn't going to just go away. An effective vaccine may reduce the worst of the effects of the virus but it won't stop people catching it, nor will it stop those who do become infected passing it on to others and some of those others will be in the vulnerable health class.
It seems to get forgotten that when one is born into this world there is no guarantee of survival and human kind like every other creature must take it's chances.
We take chances every day of our lives and think little of it. 40,000 people died from road traffic accidents in the USA last year but we still get in our cars and drive.
Heart disease kills hundreds of thousands and is particualry prevelant in the USA. Does this stop people have that fatty meat based brunch?

Though out the ages people have made sacrifices for plagues and wars. To me, Staying away from people is pretty minor to be safe if you have an income. I'm glad I am not one that has to be with people.
Like you said, people do all kinds of things that are dangerous... Most are simple dietary or unnecessary travel. .. for some reason people have a need for entertainment. I guess they no longer are struggling to just survive and have too much idle time

 

[ShrekDawg]

Though out the ages people have made sacrifices for plagues and wars. To me, Staying away from people is pretty minor to be safe if you have an income. I'm glad I am not one that has to be with people.
Like you said, people do all kinds of things that are dangerous... Most are simple dietary or unnecessary travel. .. for some reason people have a need for entertainment. I guess they no longer are struggling to just survive and have too much idle time

I guess if one lived in an apartment or something it could get pretty boring but for me, I’ve got the garden, the animals, etc. and a yard to play around in. I guess I’m lucky having a big yard. I don’t think I could ever live in an apartment.

But even in an apartment there should theoretically be plenty to do.

 

[Don 27]

Oh wow that’s amazing!!! I’m glad you’re able to grow stuff! I think it depends too because sometimes I have stuff die for no apparent reason even though I have pretty “good” soil.

Yeah that's part of it. You plant something in the spring and you never know whats going to be left when fall comes around.

It rained for a solid week here. Soooo bizarre for SoCal!

Today was sunny and brilliant so we did a little AAA therapy. I thought you might like to see a bit of my Los Angeles.

This is from the area of Mulholland Highway in the Santa Monica Mountains Conservancy a huge swath of undeveloped land that someone a generation ago was smart enough to start buying up to preserver from development.

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wow that's nice.........looks like it would be some what of a challenge to develop, if someone did want to.