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I have seen retail workers doing that.I like seeing the folks who are wearing masks but have the top 'under' their noses. It's like ..... what's wrong with this picture....
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I have seen retail workers doing that.I like seeing the folks who are wearing masks but have the top 'under' their noses. It's like ..... what's wrong with this picture....
Same here. And constantly fiddling with pulling it up, down, up.. down again, all with their gloved hands that have been freely touching everything else.I have seen retail workers doing that.
All of my birds survived the initial infection, @KDOGG331. 4 developed ocular Marek's disease and died when they were 3 years old. The others died between the ages of 2-3 of cancers and infections secondary to the initial infection.
I learned that the 'fix' isn't permanent.
Best advice, close your flock. No birds in no birds out unless you hatch them from your own eggs, then be on guard. My initial flock of buff Orpingtons hatched chicks like crazy. Only two survived. My birds were not vaccinated. The 9 hens that survived out of 23 were resistant but they did not pass that resistance on to their offspring. I knew they were shedding the virus in spite of them surviving to 4 years of age and began weighing the benefits of keeping them around. They weren't laying anymore for the most part. They didn't want to free range. Instead they set in the coop eating and pooping. They went to freezer camp. No regrets.
Marek's....go figure. I brought Egyptian Fayoumis into my flock. They are naturally Marek's resistant. I've also added some vaccinated bantam OEGBs. So far so good. I have second generation from them and so far, no signs of Marek's
I highly recommend that you read the Marek's Fact article here on BYC.
Thank you so much!!! This was so helpful!! And I think your friends article was actually the one I came across rather than the one @microchick mentioned. Whoops.
I thought he had a sprained or broken leg but now it is both legs and he can barely walk and can’t even seem to stand fully now. Also seems to use his wings to stabilize himself and his comb is darkening and some green poop.
He’s also not vaccinated so I think the probability he has it is pretty high.
I made a separate thread about it though with pictures and videos if you want to see him or maybe help confirm?
I’m mostly struggling with whether to put him down or not and also whether I even want to deal with hatching again and risk more dead birds and heartbreak.
I hatched him myself.
I would really be devastated if Jack comes down with it though.I also hatched him and Wilma so they are also unvaccinated.
so far seem fine but I know it’s a risk.
https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/marek’s-or-something-else.1363364/
I never thought of those other possible issues!! Thank you!!I've had wasting (a lot of them) I find wasting is one of the symptoms frequently. I've had a few with Ocular , grey eye or even an oval shaped pupil.
Microchick has a lot of good advice.
The other thing that I realized is that many of my Marek's exposed adults would get sick from something else; necrotic enteritis, coccidiosis, staph, aspergillosis... It's always something that they should have immunity from but since they are immunosuppressed secondary to Marek's I had to be on guard for that as well.
I’ll have to find it and read it!! Is there a link to it somewhere??Microchick's suggested article is well worth reading. It's really a good thing, I think , to provide people with some bona fide truth rather than some of these stupid articles on some outside websites.
KDOGG, I had no idea I had it until I let my silkies hatch 10 eggs from someone else, silver laced Polish. 10 in a pen . at 5-6 weeks one appears to have a broken leg. I wrap it. Then another appears to have a broken leg so I wrap that one too. When the 3rd junior presented with a "broken leg" I knew and was sick. All 10 became symptomatic one by one and had to be culled.
Still crazy curious here...how does the vodka cocktail work??
I'd Love to know an easier way when I have to cull humanely.
Is this in general, or is this more common in some areas more than others?
Like backyard song birds...or ...sparrows?
Any idea how close another farm might have to be? I don't have any other chickens around that I can hear or know of...
This has me wondering about Mareks, which to my knowledge I've not had in my flock to date. Only one time, many years ago, did I bring adult birds into an established flock. Since then it's been chicks under a week old that I've ordered or bought locally, or have had a broody hen hatch out.
Can chicks from a hatchery bring in Mareks? From what I can find, probably not.
Vodka Cocktail. I use 2 ounces for a bigger bird and less for smaller birds. I tube it. Then with most I just hold them till they die. If it's after 90 minutes, at least they're so drunk they don't notice. I have left a few to go to heaven from their nest. At least it's not violent. I don't mind culling a sad bird. I just hate having to chop their head off.
All will be planted here also, no 'corn farm's' here either. Just a lot of dairy farms.Maryland corn is going in, as planned. We don't have the monster "company farms" of the midwest, so many of our farms are still family owned and run. To paraphrase my sister & BIL - Farmers plant every year, hoping, but never knowing for sure, if the crop will be fruitful. Farming is part sweat, part hope and a whole lot of faith. that's why farmers are truly the "salt of the Earth!"