Coronavirus, Covid 19 Discussion and How It Has Affected Your Daily Life Chat Thread

[Molpet]

Good choice if you have a president that has the power to persuade the medics and a vaccination program starts because he says it safe.
But if independent medics say it is safe (from by-effects) I would vaccinate asap.

btw. A vaccin can never guarantee it will work as it should if a virus mutates. The flew vaccin is a cocktail of vaccins and changes every year because the flew mutates. So will this Covid-19 virus.

Even if they get the strains right in a flue shot, it's not 100% effective in all people.... 75% was a number I heard to be considered a good flue vaccine.

 

[IamRainey]

I got off FB and Alexa when I got pop up advertisements on FB right after having a conversation (without having a computer or phone on me) with my friend about fixing my lamp. The advertisements came from online lamp stores....Very interesting, how did they know???

That's why we don't have any of that stuff in our house. It's not all that hard to change a channel or reset a thermostat or turn a light on and off. MUCH harder to reclaim your privacy.

When I get one of those "loyalty" cards in order to get a discount I always give them a fake phone # and address. A different one every time so they can't track my buying. That info is used to target you for ads and political pitches.

I know. I know. All the stores will tell you they don't sell your information but they do. They simply "give" it to one of their subsidiaries and the subsidiary sells it. My daughter was in a Poly Sci seminar with the CA chairman of the GOP who told the that they buy it and how they use it. So who are the parties and the marketers buying it from if no one "sells" it?

 

[IamRainey]

Case in point. Scientific research is not equatable to pulling a burrito out of the freezer and tossing it in the microwave oven and 3 minutes later it's ready to eat.

Is anyone here old enough to remember thalidomide?

When there's a fully trialed vaccine I will line up to get it. Hell's bells, I've volunteered for trials. I was a Polio Pioneer when I was 7. I might as well bookend my life being a guinea pig for another vaccine now. I'm not that far from the time when I'll die of something. What that something may be is not particularly interesting to me and if it's the service of others I'd be pleased.

But promises of a speedy and reliable vaccine by the election or shortly thereafter are flat out lies or cruel attempts to salvage personal careers at the expense of the global public. And nothing less.

 

[IamRainey]

I am so sorry. That is sad. People can have different opinions and believes, yet they should be able to respect each other. You can respect that she thinks it is a hoax, that is her thing. However, she should also respect that you take it seriously and it really doesn't take that much to stay apart 6 feet or wear a mask. We are all doing it. Some people for more than 8 hours straight. These times are hard, it makes it harder to go through them without our friends.

Yesterday a friend told me she has sibs who are twins. One is a Biden supporter. One is a Trump supporter. They shared a womb for 9 months and most of their lives (they're in the 70s). Now they won't speak to one another anymore. My friend hopes they'll get over it in time. ...but how much time do they have left?

 

[Folly's place]

I remember thalidomide, and when polio was bad, and there weren't any 'anti-vaccers' when that polio vaccine came available!
We also all had small pox vaccinations, and again if traveling overseas, until about 1070.
Mary

 

[sourland]

We have one child who is a non-think conservative, and another who is a non-think liberal - the operative word here being 'non-think'. Politic speak is forbidden.

 

[sourland]

Yesterday a friend told me she has sibs who are twins. One is a Biden supporter. One is a Trump supporter. They shared a womb for 9 months and most of their lives (they're in the 70s). Now they won't speak to one another anymore. My friend hopes they'll get over it in time. ...but how much time do they have left?

Quote meant for my above post.

 

[Guernsy]

Yesterday a friend told me she has sibs who are twins. One is a Biden supporter. One is a Trump supporter. They shared a womb for 9 months and most of their lives (they're in the 70s). Now they won't speak to one another anymore. My friend hopes they'll get over it in time. ...but how much time do they have left?

Life is simply too short to fight with loved ones. With a blink of an eye they could be gone and what does it matter if they like red or blue. I am from Germany, my husband is from a tiny town in Iowa, my kids are raised in CA. We can not discuss politics at the table unless it is constructive and civil. IMO everyone is entitled to their opinion, you can always state it, but you can not force it on someone else and you have to respect that the other person might not share the same opinion.
Unfortunately, it doesn't always work that way....I have seen some very heated political discussions between good friends as well. We need unity during these hard times, not a country that is being split.

 

[Molpet]

My brother is die hard red, says all blue are blah blah blah. I keep telling him I vote for the best person and don't care if they are blue or red... when he gets nasty about blues I suddenly get phone problems I know I am not going to change his mind and it's not worth getting worked up about it.

 

[ChocolateMouse]

Something about this was irking me and after some thought I realized what it is. My experience is talk about how much family matters always seems to go in the direction of forgiving someone who is largely unrepentant for causing harm and rarely in the direction of expecting someone to be loving and apologize when they've caused harm.

IMO some things are worth cutting ties over. Basic morality is one of them. Extreme toxicity is another. If someone saw me doing something that genuinely put other peoples lives at risk I'd hope there would be consequences. The "But they're family!" mentality has literally nearly killed me and a few of my loved ones (and even other family members) a number of times over the years and the people I was expected to accept think they've done nothing wrong and kept on doing it.

I wish people took that same energy they have for expecting people who have been hurt to forgive and instead put it towards expecting people who have caused harm to make amends and apologies. After all, they're family, right? Shouldn't you be seeking their forgiveness if they're worth so much to you?

I agree it's much better not to waste energy fighting though. It's far easier to not communicate and keep your distance instead.