Coronavirus, Covid 19 Discussion and How It Has Affected Your Daily Life Chat Thread

[ChickenCanoe]

It's an awesome place filled with awesome people. Even government is local and responsive. My husband once had a problem with a new federal employment policy that intended to stop exploitation of international workers. It was good policy but it shut down the labor flow that my husband's business required despite the fact that the imported workers were short term and well paid by any standard.

A meeting of federal labor representatives and my husband's industry was quickly summoned by the local PM and they worked the matter out equitably in a matter of a week or 10 days.

We always thought we'd retire to Vancouver but then the Olympics happened and real estate started to be gobbled up and the prices escalated and then became astronomical -- and even worse for non-Canadian buyers. The last time we were there homes were going for hundreds of thousands over the stiff original asking prices.

We had had earlier opportunities to buy. We kick ourselves for not taking advantage of them but I was the one who wanted my then young kids to be able to go home to their own school. ::sigh::

It is beautiful to see everyone work towards a good end for all.

You live in LA and you are shocked by real estate prices?
I looked at property in Mexico north of Puerto Vallarta well over 10 years ago near the towns of Sayulita and San Francisco. Property close to the ocean was quite reasonable. 4 years later I was in Sayulita and most property was about 4 times what it had been. They blamed all the Californians, Oregonians, Washingtonians and Canadians for snapping it up because it seemed so cheap to them. It was outrageous. There was a lot of rehabbing going on. I spoke to several new home owners who shared what they paid for the houses. I couldn't believe what they paid. I could rent a beautiful 2 bedroom house high on a hill with a glass wall opening onto a large patio and a clear view of the bay for just over $50 a night. Given that, what would possess someone to pay a half million for something they have to rehab?
The price of real estate where one originates really skews reality.

 

[Shadrach]

I wouldn't be counting on these vaccines fixing anything.
Covid will still be here next year and probably the year after.

 

[IamRainey]

Everyone I know who leaves CA has to deal with resentment anywhere they go. And that's been going on for 2 decades.

 

[IamRainey]

Here's an interesting article that theorizes on the best approach to distributing a potential vaccine for Covid. It posits that the most effective approach to preventing transmission of the virus could be to first inoculate the social butterflies that most flout the socially distancing guidelines rather that the most vulnerable. They theorize that the vulnerable are going to continue to be wary and avoid infection but the heedless, if vaccinated, won't be able to disseminate the virus as successfully.

I hope others will check it out and weigh in.

My concerns are that I'm not sure -- not suggesting it's fact; I simply don't know -- that, once immunized, someone wouldn't still be shedding virus they'd been exposed to. Secondly, it isn't at all clear to me that the people who are super spreaders by virtue of not believing in the virus*, will be people who will agree to be vaccinated.

If someone knows more about this I'd love to hear what they have to say.

* I also read a recent story written by a nurse from one of the Dakotas who says she's most demoralized by people who are dying -- actually dying -- of Covid who still insist that it's not real and convinced that they have lung cancer or some other affliction. They object to medical personnel approaching them in PPE and they refuse to wear masks when they're tested positive, fully debilitated by the virus and still insisting on being free to spread it.

 

[ChocolateMouse]

Dear Ohio. Get your act together. This is a joke.

A couple days ago we got a "curfew" that basically said "Nobody is allowed to be out after 10PM and before 5AM, unless they have a reason to be out then they're allowed to be out.". In short, all it did was shut down night service at bars and people are still allowed to be out during those hours for work, shopping, medical reasons and "personal reasons" so basically anything. Now today;

https://www.cleveland.com/coronavir...ts-in-effort-to-slow-coronavirus-spread.html?

" The advisory... ...urges people not to travel. It has no enforcement measures. "

Thanks. That's gonna be real effective. Don't go out at night unless you wanna go out at night, and don't travel unless you wanna travel. Very effective.

 

[Cynthia12]

Just found out one of our sons has it. Tested.. positive. He's 46. His Father and Mother in law live..sort of lives with them. When they built their home, they built an apt for them to live in. Pretty nice. They come over to the family often. I just talked with him as I started this post. He has several kids getting sick too! They have 8 kids. Two of the older ones work out in the public. They think they brought it in. The Mother in law was sick first, she's going to get tested. Good grief, I just did zoom with them all on Sunday. Prayers they don't get too sick.

 

[IamRainey]

This is a very sad report. Fingers crossed for all of them.

 

[MROO]

@MROO glad to see you back.

Thanks - it's nice to be back amongst the ranks of the living/semi-functioning again! We're still not 100%, here, but every day seems to get a little better. DS is "upright" again, just exhausted. I think I'm done with the actual virus, but am still fighting the aftereffects of it on a compromised respiratory system. So far, so good ... steroids are my friends!

Our wildcard is DD - who has tested negative and remained symptom free throughout this mess. It's been killing her to be "healthy," but unable to work because of her brother's and my illnesses. She was scheduled to return to work on Saturday - totally psyched - and just got the call from work. It's a high-end steak house that has been vigilant and Covid-free ... until today. They have five servers, a hostess, a busser and a bartender out with "symptoms." Tests start tomorrow, but everybody's pretty sure what they'll find. DD has already cancelled her weekend shifts, with the blessings of both the owner and the manager.

That makes three out of three of us jobless for nearly a month, now. We're struggling, but we're hanging in there. Others we know have it a lot harder. One of DD's coworkers is a single mother with a three year old and no family in the area. They live right down the street, so we're planning to deliver a care package to her front porch, tomorrow - some canned soup and Spaghettios, extra TP and some kid-friendly treats and fresh playdough. I'm sure we can come up with some kid-friendly DVDs my crew has outgrown, too. That should help, some. It feels good to be able to pay forward some of the TLC we've been shown.

 

[MROO]

Good news on high rate of efficacy. Question that remains is duration of efficacy.

Even if just slows this mess down further so we can get a better handle on it, that's a good thing. We need time to understand how this whole mess plays out fully - and time is the one thing we're really short on ... well that, and maybe some normal common sense!

 

[MROO]

Well it looks like we are going to opt out on hosting Thanksgiving dinner with our sun and his family. Throughout this Covid time we have been caring for the kids and mostly this has been in fair weather either outside or with open windows. My son and dil had a baby in March, so son was able to take extended leave time.
This leave is now over and he’s back in the factory where although masks are mandatory, many wear them on their chins.
The real disappointment was seeing a pic of dil in her car with a cousin, both raising their Starbucks cups and no masks. On Facebook of course. Lol She is a nursing student so the disappointment is bordering on being really pissed off!
DH and I both are in agreement though so that’s important.
I’d hate to die of this virus at this point in the game, with this much time invested, you know? But young people making young people’s decisions have killed too many already. A lot of old people who should know better too to be truthful. Anyhow that’s my vent! Stay vigilant!

My family caught the virus through a health care worker taking care of my best friend's MIL. The 18 year old "cut back" on her partying, but didn't safeguard. She put her charge in the hospital and shared the virus via a shared laundry/bathroom. I spent one anally cautious afternoon out with my bestie - doing all the "safe" things - and here we are. DS and I have decided to order "I Survived," tee shirts. We may have to order one for DD, too, simply for managing to stay clear (so far!)

Oh - and no Big Thanksgiving for our family, either - and ours is usually HUGE - an all day open house at my sister's dairy farm. There is one happy side benefit, though. Sis always does the turkey, so I haven't had that amazing smell at my house for years. I am actually looking forward to waking up to the smell of roasting turkey, this year!