Coronavirus, Covid 19 Discussion and How It Has Affected Your Daily Life Chat Thread

[EmtheFishLady]

hilarious. Running out of arguments now.

No, I genuinely am asking you to clarify what you disagree with. Is it science? Because, if so I would like to understand what possible reasoning you may have for doing so.

 

[EmtheFishLady]

Personally, what bothers me the most about the lockdown is this: Gatherings are limited -- even funerals are limited. Funerals, which are personal, very important gatherings of family and loved ones to remember, thank, and bid farewell to a deceased loved one. What if more than 50 people want to come? What if more than 50 people were touched by the person and want to say a few words about them and comfort their loved ones? Who has the right to ban family from family? What angers me the most about this whole lockdown is that people are being kept from seeing their loved ones. Sure, it's to protect them, but in times of grief? Of sorrow and depression and need? People need their families in these times -- it's cruel to keep them away.

I agree that it is a terrible thing to have to miss a funeral of a loved one. However, yes, I would still absolutely miss it, if it meant I did not have to later attend another one.

 

[roosterhavoc]

Thank you for all the likes @ChocolateMouse
I really appreciate them!

 

[sourland]

@Sapphire Sebright I hear what you are saying, but again I present the case of my acquaintance who had to have a family Thanksgiving. Now a 30 year old is in intensive care and another 25 have been exposed. I will give/ have given up this year in the hopes of future times. The Princess and I are at the age where the red light is rapidly approaching, but I will accept delayed gratification. 'Delayed gratification' is it that old of a philosophy ?

 

[Sapphire Sebright]

I agree that it is a terrible thing to have to miss a funeral of a loved one. However, yes, I would still absolutely miss it, if it meant I did not have to later attend another one.

I meant it in more of a, "if everyone social distanced and wore masks and all, couldn't the gathering number be enlarged?" way.
That being said, I do understand where you're coming from. My father stayed home from a wake for his dear friend because I have diabetes and he didn't want to bring COVID back home. I still feel a bit guilty, especially because my father couldn't go and personally comfort his friend's family -- words on a screen are good, but words in person, from one person to another, are best.

 

[roosterhavoc]

No, I genuinely am asking you to clarify what you disagree with. Is it science? Because, if so I would like to understand what possible reasoning you may have for doing so.

I disagree with people saying everyone should stay home and not live their lives. I disagree with people blaming others for their inability to keep themselves healthy. I’m aware many people cannot control this because of disease. The people that swing by McDonald’s every day or don’t bother to exercise are the obvious exception. If they can’t be bothered to help themselves how can they expect others to make sacrifices to help them?

 

[EmtheFishLady]

But yet you want everyone to stay home or just wear a mask?
Actually what is it exactly you want everyone to do?

If that helps to slow the spread and exposure, yes. What is unreasonable about that?

 

[roosterhavoc]

For the “educator” that thinks I should be ignored. Nowhere did I ever state I had people over or ignored all of the guidelines.
Thanksgiving at my house was just me, my wife, son and two brothers. Usually I have cousins and at least my MIL.
You’re all assuming I have thrown caution out the window. I have not. I have only said you don’t have the right to tell me or anyone else what they should be doing.

 

[roosterhavoc]

If that helps to slow the spread and exposure, yes. What is unreasonable about that?

Which one? Staying home and businesses being hammered with 25% capacity isn’t sustainable for very long. 1/3 of all small business have already closed down here. When does it end?

 

[EmtheFishLady]

I disagree with people saying everyone should stay home and not live their lives. I disagree with people blaming others for their inability to keep themselves healthy. I’m aware many people cannot control this because of disease. The people that swing by McDonald’s every day or don’t bother to exercise are the obvious exception. If they can’t be bothered to help themselves how can they expect others to make sacrifices to help them?

Ok, so, do you not see the flaws in that logic? Apparently not, so I will go through and point it out then?
"I disagree with people saying everyone should stay home and not live their lives."- Nobody is asking anyone to stop living their lives. You are being asked to make reasonable accommodations to your life in order to protect others, IE the greater good.
"I disagree with people blaming others for their inability to keep themselves healthy. "- If you expose someone who then exposes someone I come into contact with, you have just taken away my ability to keep myself healthy.
"If they can’t be bothered to help themselves how can they expect others to make sacrifices to help them?"- What other steps do you recommend we take then to protect ourselves?

words on a screen are good, but words in person, from one person to another, are best.

I strongly disagree. There has been a great many times in my life that words on a screen brought more comfort to me than anything said or done in person.