Coronavirus, Covid 19 Discussion and How It Has Affected Your Daily Life Chat Thread

[casportpony]

Speaking of heart issues - I just came across this article, today. It's not new information - but it comes from the AHA - and should be thoughtfully considered by those mandating the mRNA shot:

https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/abs/10.1161/circ.144.suppl_1.10712

If worried, I would talk to my doctor about it.

 

[Sammster]

If worried, I would talk to my doctor about it.

I'm not worried. Just sharing information

 

[bruceha2000]

My gut feeling is that influenza will hit with vigor this season.

Our state's head doctor is concerned about that because the percent of people getting the flu vaccine this year is way down. Now that I've signed up with a new doctor (previous one moved 35 miles south to where I used to live. I signed up with him when I moved up here because I didn't want to drive 35 miles to see a doctor even though it has so far been a fairly rare event) I'll be getting my flu vaccine, and apparently as now aged person, I should also get a pneumonia vaccine.

What a fine bunch or clever people staying at a hospital with all kine sick people when they most likely have covid.

I'm surprised they were allowed in the hospital. Don't they check/test people who want to go in?

Speaking of heart issues - I just came across this article, today. It's not new information - but it comes from the AHA - and should be thoughtfully considered by those mandating the mRNA shot:

https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/abs/10.1161/circ.144.suppl_1.10712

this one claims there is no actual evidence

 

[Sammster]

this one claims there is no actual evidence

Not true

 

[-Flash-]

Here in West central NJ folks are pretty much still masking. Here everyone knows someone who has either been very ill, permanently damaged or has died.

That's awful! And sad.

 

[TropicalBabies]

I'm surprised they were allowed in the hospital. Don't they check/test people who want to go in?

Agreed and surprised. I know my states protocol is pretty strict and I am grateful for that.
I was surprised that they seemed to have been let into the hospital with maybe a temp check. Not sure, did not think to ask. I did make them and staff aware that these 2 were most likely and self admittedly the carriers. The hospital did test the next day where they both were negative. So, obviously it boils down to personal responsibility that .
Guess this thing is just going to go on forever and ever because some don't care, don't know or don't think.

 

[TropicalBabies]

Not true

I was concerned a health journal needed cookies to support itself so I shut site down before I could read much. I really like vetting my info before putting any stock into it as all kinds of trash is out there.

 

[Sammster]

I was concerned a health journal needed cookies to support itself so I shut site down before I could read much. I really like vetting my info before putting any stock into it as all kinds of trash is out there.

Here you go:

ARTERIOSCLEROSIS, THROMBOSIS, VASCULAR BIOLOGY​

SESSION TITLE: DAMPS, INFECTION AND CARDIOVASCULAR METABOLISM​

Abstract 10712: Mrna COVID Vaccines Dramatically Increase Endothelial Inflammatory Markers and ACS Risk as Measured by the PULS Cardiac Test: a Warning​

Steven R Gundry
Originally published8 Nov 2021Circulation. 2021;144:A10712

• This article has an expression of concern

Abstract​

Our group has been using the PLUS Cardiac Test (GD Biosciences, Inc, Irvine, CA) a clinically validated measurement of multiple protein biomarkers which generates a score predicting the 5 yr risk (percentage chance) of a new Acute Coronary Syndrome (ACS). The score is based on changes from the norm of multiple protein biomarkers including IL-16, a proinflammatory cytokine, soluble Fas, an inducer of apoptosis, and Hepatocyte Growth Factor (HGF)which serves as a marker for chemotaxis of T-cells into epithelium and cardiac tissue, among other markers. Elevation above the norm increases the PULS score, while decreases below the norm lowers the PULS score.The score has been measured every 3-6 months in our patient population for 8 years. Recently, with the advent of the mRNA COVID 19 vaccines (vac) by Moderna and Pfizer, dramatic changes in the PULS score became apparent in most patients.This report summarizes those results. A total of 566 pts, aged 28 to 97, M:F ratio 1:1 seen in a preventive cardiology practice had a new PULS test drawn from 2 to 10 weeks following the 2nd COVID shot and was compared to the previous PULS score drawn 3 to 5 months previously pre- shot. Baseline IL-16 increased from 35=/-20 above the norm to 82 =/- 75 above the norm post-vac; sFas increased from 22+/- 15 above the norm to 46=/-24 above the norm post-vac; HGF increased from 42+/-12 above the norm to 86+/-31 above the norm post-vac. These changes resulted in an increase of the PULS score from 11% 5 yr ACS risk to 25% 5 yr ACS risk. At the time of this report, these changes persist for at least 2.5 months post second dose of vac.We conclude that the mRNA vacs dramatically increase inflammation on the endothelium and T cell infiltration of cardiac muscle and may account for the observations of increased thrombosis, cardiomyopathy, and other vascular events following vaccination.

 

[TropicalBabies]

Thank you!

Here you go:

ARTERIOSCLEROSIS, THROMBOSIS, VASCULAR BIOLOGY​

SESSION TITLE: DAMPS, INFECTION AND CARDIOVASCULAR METABOLISM​

Abstract 10712: Mrna COVID Vaccines Dramatically Increase Endothelial Inflammatory Markers and ACS Risk as Measured by the PULS Cardiac Test: a Warning​

Steven R Gundry
Originally published8 Nov 2021Circulation. 2021;144:A10712

• This article has an expression of concern

Abstract​

Our group has been using the PLUS Cardiac Test (GD Biosciences, Inc, Irvine, CA) a clinically validated measurement of multiple protein biomarkers which generates a score predicting the 5 yr risk (percentage chance) of a new Acute Coronary Syndrome (ACS). The score is based on changes from the norm of multiple protein biomarkers including IL-16, a proinflammatory cytokine, soluble Fas, an inducer of apoptosis, and Hepatocyte Growth Factor (HGF)which serves as a marker for chemotaxis of T-cells into epithelium and cardiac tissue, among other markers. Elevation above the norm increases the PULS score, while decreases below the norm lowers the PULS score.The score has been measured every 3-6 months in our patient population for 8 years. Recently, with the advent of the mRNA COVID 19 vaccines (vac) by Moderna and Pfizer, dramatic changes in the PULS score became apparent in most patients.This report summarizes those results. A total of 566 pts, aged 28 to 97, M:F ratio 1:1 seen in a preventive cardiology practice had a new PULS test drawn from 2 to 10 weeks following the 2nd COVID shot and was compared to the previous PULS score drawn 3 to 5 months previously pre- shot. Baseline IL-16 increased from 35=/-20 above the norm to 82 =/- 75 above the norm post-vac; sFas increased from 22+/- 15 above the norm to 46=/-24 above the norm post-vac; HGF increased from 42+/-12 above the norm to 86+/-31 above the norm post-vac. These changes resulted in an increase of the PULS score from 11% 5 yr ACS risk to 25% 5 yr ACS risk. At the time of this report, these changes persist for at least 2.5 months post second dose of vac.We conclude that the mRNA vacs dramatically increase inflammation on the endothelium and T cell infiltration of cardiac muscle and may account for the observations of increased thrombosis, cardiomyopathy, and other vascular events following vaccination.

 

[Ninjasquirrel]

Here you go:

ARTERIOSCLEROSIS, THROMBOSIS, VASCULAR BIOLOGY​

SESSION TITLE: DAMPS, INFECTION AND CARDIOVASCULAR METABOLISM​

Abstract 10712: Mrna COVID Vaccines Dramatically Increase Endothelial Inflammatory Markers and ACS Risk as Measured by the PULS Cardiac Test: a Warning​

Steven R Gundry
Originally published8 Nov 2021Circulation. 2021;144:A10712

• This article has an expression of concern

Abstract​

Our group has been using the PLUS Cardiac Test (GD Biosciences, Inc, Irvine, CA) a clinically validated measurement of multiple protein biomarkers which generates a score predicting the 5 yr risk (percentage chance) of a new Acute Coronary Syndrome (ACS). The score is based on changes from the norm of multiple protein biomarkers including IL-16, a proinflammatory cytokine, soluble Fas, an inducer of apoptosis, and Hepatocyte Growth Factor (HGF)which serves as a marker for chemotaxis of T-cells into epithelium and cardiac tissue, among other markers. Elevation above the norm increases the PULS score, while decreases below the norm lowers the PULS score.The score has been measured every 3-6 months in our patient population for 8 years. Recently, with the advent of the mRNA COVID 19 vaccines (vac) by Moderna and Pfizer, dramatic changes in the PULS score became apparent in most patients.This report summarizes those results. A total of 566 pts, aged 28 to 97, M:F ratio 1:1 seen in a preventive cardiology practice had a new PULS test drawn from 2 to 10 weeks following the 2nd COVID shot and was compared to the previous PULS score drawn 3 to 5 months previously pre- shot. Baseline IL-16 increased from 35=/-20 above the norm to 82 =/- 75 above the norm post-vac; sFas increased from 22+/- 15 above the norm to 46=/-24 above the norm post-vac; HGF increased from 42+/-12 above the norm to 86+/-31 above the norm post-vac. These changes resulted in an increase of the PULS score from 11% 5 yr ACS risk to 25% 5 yr ACS risk. At the time of this report, these changes persist for at least 2.5 months post second dose of vac.We conclude that the mRNA vacs dramatically increase inflammation on the endothelium and T cell infiltration of cardiac muscle and may account for the observations of increased thrombosis, cardiomyopathy, and other vascular events following vaccination.

Interesting. My mil walks everyday and is otherwise healthy. After getting the vaccine she now has HBP. I had heard that is causes "inflammation" of the heart muscle but that "it usually goes away".