could you explain for my friend why these aren't ameracaunas/auracanas

[haTHOR]

thank you so much--just need a quick way to explain it for him and i am no expert. can you point out specifics on the birds please?

these hens and the one roo are easter eggers, right?

ignore the dominiques.

the roo in question is on the far left here.

 

[buchette]

Easter Eggers are Americaunas......

http://apa-abayouthpoultryclub.org/Edu_Material/Easter Eggers vs.pdf

Try this link.....

 

[schellie69]

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Ameracuans only come in certain colors Easter eggers can come in any colors Those are EE's they won't breed true like true Ameracuana's notice no "i" in Ameracuan here is a great web-site that might help
http://www.ameraucana.org/index.html

 

[haTHOR]

i know about the website and have mentioned it but my friend still thinks these specific birds are ameracaunas (i think i was able to show pics of auracanas and explain how these birds are not them).

 

[Chris09]

Here try this-
http://www.ameraucana.org/faq.html#TWO

Chris

 

[schellie69]

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Where did these birds come from? If from a feed store or hatchery then they are Easter eggers. Which is an Ameracuana or Ameracuana mix that does not fall into the standard colors. You can only get true Amerauana's from a breeder.

Here are the only colors allowed None of the ones in the pictures are these colors also if your breed them they would not breed true to standard.
AMERAUCANA VARIETIES (Large Fowl & Bantam)


Black, Blue, Blue Wheaten, Brown Red, Buff, Silver, Wheaten & White

 

[Mofarmgirl]

Hehe...well, some people just can't wrap their minds around this EE/Ameraucana thing, and get upset over it. It doesnt help that hatcheries claim to sell them and do as one in the same. If you cant convice him, let him be maybe lol. I think his birds are very nice, jut not standardized. The article by John Blehm even admits that these groups of birds may have had similar beginnings. The difference is, what we now call Ameraucanas have been worked with and standardized. They have only 8 recognized colors, should alway have blue/slate legs, and beards and earmuffs. Then hens always lay some version of a blue or blue green egg. I personally think both groups are very nice, EE having fun color combos, egg colors and they are also usually very smart and gentle. My mom has an EE roo who looks exactly like a blue wheaten, with a hen to match. She lays green eggs, his offspring, blue green. If you were to work with a trio like this Im sure you could standardize it eventually.

 

[schellie69]

I understand about wrapping their head around it, but it can and has cause problems when people are selling as one thing and someone goes to show it and finds out that its not that. I love EE's they are great with all the colors you can and do get. I also think that true breed Ameraucana's are great breeders spend a lot of time energy and money to get these birds to be the standard. I understand both sides of the debate. Until hatcheries start calling them EE's we will have this issue keep coming up unless people learn the difference. I have 3 bantam EE's that are almost all white with the right rooster I could breed them to standard since they do lay a pretty blue egg. I don't why because I think EE's are cool. Someday I might get a few Ameraucana's from a breeder because I like their looks. But until then I am happy with my mutt EE's

 

[donrae]

If you've presented the information and your friend won't accept it, let it go of you want to keep the friend. Seriously, is it THAT important in the grand scheme of things?

 

[haTHOR]

he is a smart guy and likes to know the right answers about things...it's just a confusing subject to the general person who hasn't seen it argued and explained ad infinitum here on BYC. if i thought he "wouldn't accept it" i would certainly drop it...