- Jun 16, 2010
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Our house is 30+ years old, in a subdivision with an optional HOA. (Optional participation, fees are $5/year or something silly like that.) When we bought the house 10 years ago, we asked for the CCRs and got a copy of a fax of a copy made in 1970. It was almost completely illegible.
We are planning to build a coop and get a few chickens. I checked the county rules and we are allowed to have them in limited number, certain distance from neighbors, etc. Fine. We started to move ahead with the plan when I decided to seek our CCRs online. The HOA has posted the same barely legible document we were given at closing, but parts are readable, including the very clear (or is it?) language that poultry is not allowed:
"No...poultry...shall be kept or maintained on any part of said property. This restriction should not be construed, however, as prohibiting the keeping of ordinary domestic animals on said property; provided, however, that the Owner, its successors or assigns, shall have the right to order the removal from any lot any birds, fowl, or animals which are objectionable to any residents of an adjacent property."
So are chickens allowed or not??? The subdivision was built on former farmland, and one end of the division is still horse farms, complete with chickens and roosters I can hear from my yard less than 1/4 mile away.
Here's the thing:
My former neighbors had chickens. One day, while they were away, they left their hens free-ranging in the yard. One (or more) had laid an egg and everyone was squawking about it. The lady across the street came over and asked me if the hens were okay b/c they were being "so loud." They were audible. Much quieter than her son's muffler-less car and car stereo. She wasn't exactly complaining, but she seemed unhappy to have them across the street from her house. I don't need a complaint from them.
Neighbors and chickens have moved away, so we don't have anyone else (other than the farms down the street) for support. And the house is now vacant, which means future owners could complain.
I don't have anyone to give them to if we are asked to remove them (although I'm sure I could find them good homes, but I don't want to!) and the coop is part of a big investment in our back yard. I'm reasonably certain my hubby will have a conniption if we spend all this money and trouble designing a garden/chicken area in our back yard and then have to get rid of the chickens. And I probably will, too...
The HOA is optional, but I'm sure that doesn't mean we don't all have to follow their rules, does it?? It seems you only have to pay the $10 to make a complaint against someone, but you don't have to pay to be required to follow the rules.
The rules are completely unclear to me. The first sentence in my quote above says it loud and clear: NO CHICKENS. And then they say not to interpret it that way. Are chickens "ordinary domestic animals" or not? Seems to me that they are... But I do acknowledge that other than on this forum, they are not generally considered "ordinary pets."
So.... Would you just move ahead? Call someone to ask first? Hubby always refers to the saying about better to ask permission now than have to beg for forgiveness later. I don't know which path I want to take on this.
We are planning to build a coop and get a few chickens. I checked the county rules and we are allowed to have them in limited number, certain distance from neighbors, etc. Fine. We started to move ahead with the plan when I decided to seek our CCRs online. The HOA has posted the same barely legible document we were given at closing, but parts are readable, including the very clear (or is it?) language that poultry is not allowed:
"No...poultry...shall be kept or maintained on any part of said property. This restriction should not be construed, however, as prohibiting the keeping of ordinary domestic animals on said property; provided, however, that the Owner, its successors or assigns, shall have the right to order the removal from any lot any birds, fowl, or animals which are objectionable to any residents of an adjacent property."
So are chickens allowed or not??? The subdivision was built on former farmland, and one end of the division is still horse farms, complete with chickens and roosters I can hear from my yard less than 1/4 mile away.
Here's the thing:
My former neighbors had chickens. One day, while they were away, they left their hens free-ranging in the yard. One (or more) had laid an egg and everyone was squawking about it. The lady across the street came over and asked me if the hens were okay b/c they were being "so loud." They were audible. Much quieter than her son's muffler-less car and car stereo. She wasn't exactly complaining, but she seemed unhappy to have them across the street from her house. I don't need a complaint from them.
Neighbors and chickens have moved away, so we don't have anyone else (other than the farms down the street) for support. And the house is now vacant, which means future owners could complain.
I don't have anyone to give them to if we are asked to remove them (although I'm sure I could find them good homes, but I don't want to!) and the coop is part of a big investment in our back yard. I'm reasonably certain my hubby will have a conniption if we spend all this money and trouble designing a garden/chicken area in our back yard and then have to get rid of the chickens. And I probably will, too...
The HOA is optional, but I'm sure that doesn't mean we don't all have to follow their rules, does it?? It seems you only have to pay the $10 to make a complaint against someone, but you don't have to pay to be required to follow the rules.
The rules are completely unclear to me. The first sentence in my quote above says it loud and clear: NO CHICKENS. And then they say not to interpret it that way. Are chickens "ordinary domestic animals" or not? Seems to me that they are... But I do acknowledge that other than on this forum, they are not generally considered "ordinary pets."
So.... Would you just move ahead? Call someone to ask first? Hubby always refers to the saying about better to ask permission now than have to beg for forgiveness later. I don't know which path I want to take on this.