Cream Legbar Hybrid Thread

[Peep_Show]

@rebrascora

Ahhh, Ethel.... He did finally crow and was promptly voted off the island. Huge comb. His half-sister, Lucy, still hasn't laid (probably another month or so) and is the slowest in growing wattles and comb...but they're there and she's plumping out like a hen. She, I believe, is 3/4 CCL and 1/4 RIR as I've never seen a cinnamon-colored CCL, which her egg was sold to me as pure CCL *but* in the background of the flock pictures you can clearly see RIR's and CCLxRIR hybrid crosses. Her egg from which she hatched was more green than blue. Anyway, Lucy looks like a red roadrunner and is just as crazy....fastest bird in the coop.

 

[ChicagoClucker]

@Peep_Show

So sorry I haven't posted a photo of my CCL x RIR pullets. I'm afraid I still haven't got to grips with my new phone (I'm a serious technophobe). Delighted though to report that one of these pullets started laying 2 days ago at exactly 23 weeks. The eggs are tiny but a beautiful olive colour and she has given me 2 in 2 days in the official nest boxes. She's is such a good girl! Considering that the blue/green eggs I get from my other barnyard mix pullets that were sired by the same rooster are so pale (you almost need to see them next to a white egg to realise they are coloured), this egg is very definitely and distinctively olive green. I'm absolutely thrilled to bits with her and definitely want more of this hybrid. She really is my favourite and she is such a pet. Sadly her sister has relapsed with Mareks and is currently in sick bay with leg paralysis. I'm guessing the stress to her body of puberty has triggered the attack. She looks well and eats well (bright eyes and alert and beautiful red comb) but is lying down most of the time.
How is yours doing? Did you manage to find a home for him or did he go to freezer camp? Was he a decent size for a table bird? I'm just wondering as I definitely intend to breed more of this cross and won't be so lucky as to just get pullets next time. My pullets are definitely not as big as their RIR mother or father obviously.... probably more like leghorn size. It's interesting that they are by far my most friendly hens when neither their father, mother or broody mother will allow me to handle them and none of my other chicks from the same brood or previous broods are so tame. I guess it is one of the main reasons I like them so much.

Can I ask did you use a rhode island Roo or a Legbar Roo? I am asking cause I have CCL hens and roos but I only have RIR hen. I am waiting for my FBCM's to grow so I can cross with the CCL hens to get some Olive Eggers.

 

[rebrascora]

Hi

I used my CCL roo over my RIR hen. Like you I have both CCL sexes but just the RIR hen. Can't wait for her to start laying again and one of by broodies to .... well.... go broody, so I can hatch more of these. I'm also hoping to use a Welsummer roo over my CCL hen for darker olive eggs hopefully with speckles.

 

[ChicagoClucker]

Hi

I used my CCL roo over my RIR hen. Like you I have both CCL sexes but just the RIR hen. Can't wait for her to start laying again and one of by broodies to .... well.... go broody, so I can hatch more of these. I'm also hoping to use a Welsummer roo over my CCL hen for darker olive eggs hopefully with speckles.

Thanks for the info. I might have to hatch some out this spring then, while I am waiting for my FBCM's. The Welsummer cross should make some pretty eggs. I am trying to add some color to basket. Can't wait for CCL and Maransl to start laying.

 

[sol2go]

Hello,

I have a small flock of Cream Legbars 5 hens and until last month one Roo. Sadly a hawk took my roo. I'm looking to get a new Roo and was thinking I'd get either a BCM or a black birchen Marans to make an "olive egger". I have a few questions.

1) I understand that a cross from a Back Roo would produce a Sex link with the pullets being all black and the Roos having a white spot on their heads. Does anyone have a picture of the cross with the Marans Roo and the CCL hen? Also a picture of an adult hen? My gals have a pretty big Crest and I'm wondering if the crest comes through with this cross?

2) My guess is the black birchen would also produce a sex link (silver instead of copper). Does anyone know for sure? Also are the eggs about the same darkness as the bcm?

3) From what I read the Marans are mellow birds but gosh the roos look huge compared to the hens. My gals are petite and I was wondering if the Marans are "gentlemen" when it comes to breeding. My guy would hunt bugs to impress all day for the gals and never mount without an invitation. I know each Roo is an individual but has anyone had any trouble with a marans being too aggressive with the gals?

Any other advice would be appreciated.


Thanks,
Deborah

Hi Deborah,

if you haven't already fulfilled your Roo search, I am in California and have extras, although they may be a variation on your theme:
Cream Legbars,
F1 olive eggers (CL Roo x Cuckoo Marans Hen),
olive egger? (CL Roo x F1 olive egger Hen from a Blue Copper Marans x CL)

 

[Junibutt]

Hi Deborah,

if you haven't already fulfilled your Roo search, I am in California and have extras, although they may be a variation on your theme:
Cream Legbars,
F1 olive eggers (CL Roo x Cuckoo Marans Hen),
olive egger? (CL Roo x F1 olive egger Hen from a Blue Copper Marans x CL)

Hi @sol2go Your CL Roo x F1 Oliver eggs hen (from BCM x CL) has a 50% chance of laying an Olive/green egg and 50% of a Blue egg. provided your CL roo was homozygous for the blue gene, however if he was heterozygous for the blue gene, you have 50% chance of Blue, 25% chance of Olive, 25% chance of light brown egg laying offsprings. Someone correct me if I am wrong.

 

[sol2go]

Hi @sol2go Your CL Roo x F1 Oliver eggs hen (from BCM x CL) has a 50% chance of laying an Olive/green egg and 50% of a Blue egg. provided your CL roo was homozygous for the blue gene, however if he was heterozygous for the blue gene, you have 50% chance of Blue, 25% chance of Olive, 25% chance of light brown egg laying offsprings. Someone correct me if I am wrong.

Hi, yes, it is an unknown, if that second iteration Roo will have olive or blue eggshell genes. It would be nice if he is double for blue (homozygous) and single for brown (heterozygous). If so, he would be a nice building block in a double blue double brown effort, especially if paired with a hen that is single for blue (heterozygous) and double for brown (homozygous). It all takes time, with some pretty eggs in the process.

So how's the weather in your area today?!

 

[ronott1]

Hi, yes, it is an unknown, if that second iteration Roo will have olive or blue eggshell genes. It would be nice if he is double for blue (homozygous) and single for brown (heterozygous). If so, he would be a nice building block in a double blue double brown effort, especially if paired with a hen that is single for blue (heterozygous) and double for brown (homozygous). It all takes time, with some pretty eggs in the process.

So how's the weather in your area today?!

Brown egg shell color is a lot of genes, shell color is only two with blue being dominant. Egg shells can only be white of blue and then the darkness of brown is determined by up to 15 gene pairs.

Brown is very complicated. Any bit of green to an egg has some brown genes present for the coating color.

 

[sol2go]

Brown egg shell color is a lot of genes, shell color is only two with blue being dominant. Egg shells can only be white of blue and then the darkness of brown is determined by up to 15 gene pairs.

Brown is very complicated. Any bit of green to an egg has some brown genes present for the coating color.

Hi!
You recently posted a nice olive egg example very similar to my possible olive egger Roo match up.
I believe you crossed a Crele Penedesenca Roo with an F1 Hen (Crele Penedesenca x Cream Legbar) and the resulting hen layed a beautiful olive egg.
So she is seemingly some combination of double brown (homozygous), and retained a single blue (heterozygous).
What would you cross her with to achieve a double blue double brown offspring?

 

[ronott1]

Hi!
You recently posted a nice olive egg example very similar to my possible olive egger Roo match up.
I believe you crossed a Crele Penedesenca Roo with an F1 Hen (Crele Penedesenca x Cream Legbar) and the resulting hen layed a beautiful olive egg.
So she is seemingly some combination of double brown (homozygous), and retained a single blue (heterozygous).
What would you cross her with to achieve a double blue double brown offspring?

I would cross to a blue egg layer--a Cream legbar would be good. Then use the pullets that lay the darkest eggs and cross them to a brother. Then try weeding out over several generations to get the color and I wanted. The trick would be getting double blue and enough brown genes to keep the eggs a nice olive color.

This is the egg for reference--It gets the blue genes from a Cream Legbar so the pullet is A CCL hybrid.