Cream Legbar Hybrid Thread

Here's some updated pics of my chocolate cream legbars, so far they seem to be growing more at the rate of an orpington than a legbar.
Gonna cross the cockerel with my pure legbars to get some more chocolate hens.






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4/5 of the my eggs hatched under my broody, 3 of them are cream legbar roo over a non-cl hen, and 1 is pure cream legbar. I know they aren't sex linked, but I it still possible to try to predict the sexes?

Chick 1: black chick
Chick 2: chick with black dot on head
Chick 3: chick with defined stripes on back
Chick 4: chick with less defined stripes on back/head (this is the cream legbar chick)

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Anyone know what kind of chick this is? It came from a brown egg my ccl roo fertilized. It was my one hatch out of 14 eggs. 13 eggs were from a breeder nearby where i bought the eggs. They were crested crean legbars. None hatched. 5 were in diffrent stages of developement but never hatched. I was so disapointed. I had my one miricle hatch tho. Didnt even know my roo was getting around.
 
Sol2go, is your lovely CCL/wellie mix laying yet?? Let's see that egg
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Nice of you to ask =)

2 of Gigi's green CL/Wellie eggs are in the middle of the 6pack.
Her body is bigger than either breed she came from, but her eggs have been smaller.
She does lay almost every day.



A Welsummer egg is on the top right, a CL egg below.

A Marans egg is on the top left, an olive egger below (MaransxCL).
So far the olive eggers have been large bodies and larger eggs, but they don't lay as often as the CL/wellie mix.
 
Here are some more Blue Breda Gueldre X Cream Legbar Mix photos.

This cockerel turned out with better ear lobes than any of the pure Legbars. He has the type that hold tight to the face (name?) as opposed to the pendant ear lobes that hand down like the Legbars. This one has a single comb with the Carnation sprigs in the back (Proving my Breda Gueldre are pur breed for comb type).




This cockerel also came out with very white ear lobes, but shows the butter cup type comb (which was the expected comb from the cross).



Here is a pait next to each other with an Olive Egger in the back.



None of the Pullets came out with as nice ear lobs as the two cockerels above did. We grew out 8 pullets and about a dozen cockerels. The cockerels were a lot smaller than the pure Cream Legbar Cockerels (or at least the few Legbar boys that were the keepers). The pullets are much slower developing than the pure legbars. At 18 weeks a few of the Legbars are laying, but the Breda Mixed hens still have the pelvic bones touching (they won't be laying for at least 6 weeks).

I have also had CL crosses that produced better white earlobes on the hybrids...? And sometimes better crests than 2 CL produce.
 
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Here's some updated pics of my chocolate cream legbars, so far they seem to be growing more at the rate of an orpington than a legbar.
Gonna cross the cockerel with my pure legbars to get some more chocolate hens.






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I've often thought the CL's would look nice in chocolate and cream...yum!
 
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Here's some updated pics of my chocolate cream legbars, so far they seem to be growing more at the rate of an orpington than a legbar.
Gonna cross the cockerel with my pure legbars to get some more chocolate hens.






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cockerel
First of all they are beautiful birds. Thanks for taking on this complex project. I just gave away a few of my project chicks some were black cuckoo split to chocolate and some just chocolate. I would have sent them your way if they were any use for you.

I am sure you have all your things in order, however here are my questions/suggestions:

1. I understand that first cross was Choc Orp Roo x Cream Legbar Girl. That would result in chocolate girls and black cuckoo boys split to chocolate.
2. What was the second cross? Was it the black cuckoo boy x pure CL hen? or the siblings from F1? Did you do the cross or did you just buy eggs from the cross?
3. I don't see the duckwing pattern in this cockerel. I am assuming you will pick the duckwing boy from the next generation for future crosses?

Good luck! I think they will be beautiful birds and will be able to breed true (except for the full cream/split cream issue)
 
First of all they are beautiful birds. Thanks for taking on this complex project. I just gave away a few of my project chicks some were black cuckoo split to chocolate and some just chocolate. I would have sent them your way if they were any use for you.

I am sure you have all your things in order, however here are my questions/suggestions:

1. I understand that first cross was Choc Orp Roo x Cream Legbar Girl. That would result in chocolate girls and black cuckoo boys split to chocolate.
2. What was the second cross? Was it the black cuckoo boy x pure CL hen? or the siblings from F1? Did you do the cross or did you just buy eggs from the cross?
3. I don't see the duckwing pattern in this cockerel. I am assuming you will pick the duckwing boy from the next generation for future crosses?

Good luck! I think they will be beautiful birds and will be able to breed true (except for the full cream/split cream issue)


One more observation/question: The leg color is obviously not yellow. Its very typical of choc cuckoo orps, I don't know the answer to this but do you know if choc leg color is dominant over yellow?
 
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First of all they are beautiful birds. Thanks for taking on this complex project. I just gave away a few of my project chicks some were black cuckoo split to chocolate and some just chocolate. I would have sent them your way if they were any use for you.

I am sure you have all your things in order, however here are my questions/suggestions:

1. I understand that first cross was Choc Orp Roo x Cream Legbar Girl. That would result in chocolate girls and black cuckoo boys split to chocolate.
2. What was the second cross? Was it the black cuckoo boy x pure CL hen? or the siblings from F1? Did you do the cross or did you just buy eggs from the cross?
3. I don't see the duckwing pattern in this cockerel. I am assuming you will pick the duckwing boy from the next generation for future crosses?

Good luck! I think they will be beautiful birds and will be able to breed true (except for the full cream/split cream issue)
Thanks!

I bought the eggs from someone who had originally crossed them last year and then this spring had them all in one pen (pure ccl, pure chocolate orp and the f1 mixes all together) so I don't know the exact cross. Most of the babies (I hatched about 20) hatched out solid chocolate or black (some barred). Only these 2 were chocolate cuckoo with chipmunk stripes

These both had slight chipmunk stripes so I'm thinking the boy will have the duckwing pattern, he is only 3.5 months old now and has a couple red feathers coming in on his shoulders. But I'm just basing the pattern coming in now by my pure ccl cockerel who is a month older, so I could easily be wrong and the red could just be a bit of gold leakage since this is my first year with CCLs. Next year I'm planning on crossing him to my pure ccl hens (not his sister though) and the year after cross the best F3 male with the F2 chocolate female, OR maybe cross her next year to my pure ccl roo to get some split to chocolate sons to cross with the chocolate hens of the other F3 cross. Depends on if I manage sell my pure ccl cockerel or not
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I'm hoping the cockerel is split to cream, but I do like the gold/chocolate look so might continue that also in a separate pen. I have a svart hona hen too so will try getting chocolate svart honas... Too many projects?
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Not to mention my pigeon and quail projects lol



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One more observation/question: The leg color is obviously not yellow. Its very typical of choc cuckoo orps, I don't know the answer to this but do you know if choc leg color is dominant over yellow?

I don't know, just kinda planned on crossing them back to CCLs until they had yellow legs (and better tail angles).
 
Tried looking up chicken leg color genetics, the only thing I could really understand is that yellow (and pretty much every other color) is recessive to white (pinkish).
 

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