Cream Legbars

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I just found a post by Pixel
http://forum.backyardpoultry.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=7967614&start=15
Looks like my bird and the breeder keeps welsummers. I got a mutt Ameraucana from her last year, so if you think that is what I have, the mystery is solved.

Should have been Pyxel

 

[BuffyBugSlayer]

You guys are way too technical for me to follow at this point in my education on chickens. Had some college biology, but genetics was a very new science back in the 70's. Is there something I can read to get me up to speed quickly if I work at it?

I don't know if this helps any, but the brown eggs are brown right through. My leghorns have brown eggs that are white on the inside.

One breeder says she only keeps cream legbars, the other I know keeps several breeds, so I will try to get a list of likely crossings.

I am new at this too and this thread plus the other legbar threads are very helpful. Nicalandia posted some links some pages back that are very helpful. I also find that once I have a glimmer of understanding on something I can reply to some responses and if I am right people will confirm and if I am not right people will also let me know. I find it very helpful to quiz myself this way. I still have very much to learn but I am slowly making progress!

It probably doesn't matter a whole lot what he is crossed with if you plan to breed cream legbars you should not use the ones that are not good representations of the breed. The above fellow is not. The same goes with your hens that are laying brown eggs.

 

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It probably doesn't matter a whole lot what he is crossed with if you plan to breed cream legbars you should not use the ones that are not good representations of the breed. The above fellow is not. The same goes with your hens that are laying brown eggs.

Thanks, but that is a given. What I need to figure out is which breeder gave me the bad birds so I know not to get any more.

 

[chicken pickin]

I just found a post by Pixel
http://forum.backyardpoultry.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=7967614&start=15
Looks like my bird and the breeder keeps welsummers. I got a mutt Ameraucana from her last year, so if you think that is what I have, the mystery is solved.

I agree that the pics in that link of the CL x Welsummer look very similar to your male. That could be the likely cross.

 

[BuffyBugSlayer]

Thanks, but that is a given. What I need to figure out is which breeder gave me the bad birds so I know not to get any more.

Ah, gotcha. I thought you were going to try to work with what you had. You might be able to go their place and take a look around if they are close enough. Now that you know what to look for you might be able to identify them yourself.

 

[nicalandia]

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his owner/breeder Mr. Henk Confirmed that he was not cream, cream Dutch bantams can show chestnut on the wing bay sometimes too,

 

[nicalandia]

Cream Light Brown Dutch Bantam showing red enhancers(shoulders and wing triangle)



and Light brown Leghonr that has very little red enhancers showing white wing triangle and cream shoulders

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[BuffyBugSlayer]

Quote: Pardon my slowness about this, but is there anyway to tell visually that he is not cream?

 

[nicalandia]

Pardon my slowness about this, but is there anyway to tell visually that he is not cream?

had he been cream , he would have appeared to be silver line many CL you see from time to time, but its true he does look like most CL you see around here, it seems like cream and double barring are Battling Autosomal red enhancers

the fact still remains that you can ttell the difference between a red enhanced CL a not red enhanced double barred crele male(henk case) and a extra Red enhanced Silver crele male(posted pics of such bird a while ago) their phenotype is too simmilar and thats why if I had the chance I would work with Silver instead of cream

 

[BuffyBugSlayer]

Thanks nicalandia. I think I am starting to understand this a little better.

This is a question to all of you that have a better grasp than I..cream legbars can be homozygous and heterozygous for cream, correct? So the "silvery" looking ones are homozygous for cream and the others are heterozygous? But they can still have some red/chestnut and still be heterozygous for cream? Would you be able to tell by the color of the wing triangle then? Or is there no way to tell for sure by looking...

I guess this is what I am trying to sort out.