Cream Legbars

[Red Banks]

Me too!

 

[MeepBeep]

You have everything you need here in the States now to make any kind of Legbar that you fancy.

I believe unless you have mapped the entire genome of the 11 import birds that is a very bold claim to make...

If every bird in the US stock has an AA expressed gene (do we have proof this isn't the case?) and someone somewhere wants what the aa gene expression produces, how is that going to be possible short of a random genetic mutation or introducing outside blood? In that fictitious example, the aa expression could still very well produce a SoP bird since the standard allows for variations and is interpretive...

As for the white sport, I'm aware we can breed them in the US thanks to GFF earlier imports, it was just an example of a gene expression that could be lost when dealing with a limited gene pool even if said gene is in the larger gene pool...

I guess we will have to beg to differ...

If you custom breed a Legbar to become something else, then it is no longer a Legbar......thus the Standards.

Standards are not universally accepted and change over time, they are not the end all definition of any breed unless you show or breed to that currently accepted standard... One doesn't have to breed to the current SoP (or lack of) to develop a future breed of recognized Legbars... Also it's possible to breed a specific trait into your line, that is unique to your line but still falls within the standards...

 

[Red Banks]

Quote: Really?

 

[fowlman01]

I believe unless you have mapped the entire genome of the 11 import birds that is a very bold claim to make...

If every bird in the US stock has an AA expressed gene (do we have proof this isn't the case?) and someone somewhere wants what the aa gene expression produces, how is that going to be possible short of a random genetic mutation or introducing outside blood? In that fictitious example, the aa expression could still very well produce a SoP bird since the standard allows for variations and is interpretive...

As for the white sport, I'm aware we can breed them in the US thanks to GFF earlier imports, it was just an example of a gene expression that could be lost when dealing with a limited gene pool even if said gene is in the larger gene pool...

I guess we will have to beg to differ...
Standards are not universally accepted and change over time, they are not the end all definition of any breed unless you show or breed to that currently accepted standard... One doesn't have to breed to the current SoP (or lack of) to develop a future breed of recognized Legbars... Also it's possible to breed a specific trait into your line, that is unique to your line but still falls within the standards...

You are correct......we will have to disagree on this and pretty much everything you posted above.

Walt

 

[miss heny]

Really?

as a person who has studied the standard I will have to disagrees. The ONLY agile the standard been change was either adding a new breed or editing the standard of another for clearing wording.

 

[miss heny]

Dear God really phone? Reason, not Agil sorry folks for that!

 

[ChicKat]

as a person who has studied the standard I will have to disagrees. The ONLY agile the standard been change was either adding a new breed or editing the standard of another for clearing wording.

Dear God really phone? Reason, not Agil sorry folks for that!

Hate it when the phones do that! Makes some strange things appear......

 

[fowlman01]

as a person who has studied the standard I will have to disagrees. The ONLY agile the standard been change was either adding a new breed or editing the standard of another for clearing wording.

You are correct, there are not changes to any Standard that I know of that changes the original intent of the description. I don't think all folks understand what a Standard for a breed really is. The Cream Legbar people have been very thoughtful about how they are determining the Standard for this breed. When I was in England last month I was able to make connections with breeders there that will make it easier to get info directly from the horses mouth so to speak.

Changing an APA Standard is almost impossible......I know this because I am the APA Standard Committee's Chairman.

Walt

 

[jerryse]

 

[Red Banks]

I like mine with July Fruits and butter.